Saturday’s defeat to a team without a win in four months seems to have finally woken a few eternal optimists and now even they are admitting our shortfalls and admitting the title is lost – just days after the magic of Madrid.

Fair enough, the players were shocking but what I find most incredible is that some people persist on defending Benitez where he simply is indefensible.

Most of the post-match talk has centred around the decision to play Martin Skrtel at right back. There’s one person in the forums who claims it isn’t Benitez’s fault Arbeloa got injured. Ah, what a genius that guy is.

Degen - Signed by RafaIt is, however, Benitez’s fault he signed an absolute shocker of a sicknote in Philipp Degen. We all thought there must have been a reason why even Dortmund no longer wanted the Swiss right back, now we understand why. Benitez signed him as cover for right back so yes, that’s Benitez’s fault.

The man Degen replaced, Steve Finnan, was a more than capable cover for right back and competition for Arbeloa – whose fault is it that he was moved on after an alleged clash with the manager?

Darby - Never usedThen we get to Stephen Darby. Darby has been at the club since a youngster, won the youth Cup twice, captained the reserves to the reserve league title and won the club’s young player of the year. What though, exactly, has the lad got to do to get a chance? What is the point of him being at the club? The manager clearly has no faith in him and would prefer to play a player who has never played the position in his life there instead.

It’s disheartening for the player himself and im sure the senior members of the squad, Carragher and Gerrard, can see he deserves a chance. Carragher touched on something in his autobiography about poor quality foreign squad players being signed when the young lads in the reserves are just as, it not better, than them (Degen vs Darby in this case).

Fair enough, manager’s can get team selection wrong, but what we’d all like to see is Benitez realise the mistake and correct it. It was abundantly clear early on Skrtel was uncomfortable there but did he change it? Did he bollocks, not till it was too late and Downing was well on the way to winning man-of-the-match and single handedly winning the match for Boro.

As for those questioning why Carragher didn’t simply play there, well he did so against Everton the other week and afterwards admitted he was knackered. He doesn’t have the legs to play full back, especially at this stage of the season and barely 3 days after playing in the Bernabeu. Full back requires a lot more running than centre back too – and why should we be moving our first choice centre back to right back when Arbeloa gets injured? We shouldn’t, the manager should have natural cover, that’s his fault. He has to be accountable.

SkrtelAnother man I feel sorry for, alongside Darby, is Skrtel. Christ, the guys been playing out his skin in the centre so must have been a bit bewildered by being asked to play right back all of a sudden. Like many of Rafa’s decisions this sense, there was no logic.

There’s supporting a manager and there’s just blind faith and lunacy; the mistakes are glaring, no matter what some people say, it is like the end of the Houllier era all over again with mediocre players making up the rest of the squad.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see Rafa turn it around – somehow – and give us a decent finish to the season (don’t call it a title challenge, it never was) then sort it out over the summer, on and off the pitch, and actually have a real title challenge next season. It’s just that scenario looks about as likely as United throwing the title away this season.

Benitez’s biggest mistake has been making the last couple of months about himself and not the football club; if he’d have kept his mouth shut, concentrated on the football and left all contract talks till the end of the season who knows where we might be now. Instead we’ve been turned into a circus, and while Coco the Clown is soon to be gone, Rafa is looking more and more the ringmaster.

  • Daft Lad

    I’ll provide a view on Souness. He was supported to the very end. This is what we do. Liverpool fans are extremely loyal and give the manager respect. But that does not mean it is right.

    Rafa deserves a lot of respect for making us fiercly competitive. Definitely. The issue is the next step and why we fans are frustrated is because we believe the next step is attainable and we see Rafa not doing it. And we see Rafa making mistakes. Someone said that we are second and competitive in Europe. Yes that is true (although now 3rd) but another take is that whilst being near the top of the league we have not got the maximum out of our squad. The basic requirement for me is for a manager to get the best of his squad. But look at our players. How many have been playing to form? Rafa is limited and he irritates the fuck out of me. Whilst he’s done so much I personally believe it to be standard and believe any of the top managers would have achieved the same. Give Fergy our squad and give Rafa Fergy’s squad I believe Rafa would lose out.

  • Daft Lad

    I’ll provide a view on Souness. He was supported to the very end. This is what we do. Liverpool fans are extremely loyal and give the manager respect. But that does not mean it is right.

    Rafa deserves a lot of respect for making us fiercly competitive. Definitely. The issue is the next step and why we fans are frustrated is because we believe the next step is attainable and we see Rafa not doing it. And we see Rafa making mistakes. Someone said that we are second and competitive in Europe. Yes that is true (although now 3rd) but another take is that whilst being near the top of the league we have not got the maximum out of our squad. The basic requirement for me is for a manager to get the best of his squad. But look at our players. How many have been playing to form? Rafa is limited and he irritates the fuck out of me. Whilst he’s done so much I personally believe it to be standard and believe any of the top managers would have achieved the same. Give Fergy our squad and give Rafa Fergy’s squad I believe Rafa would lose out.

  • Daft Lad

    I’ll provide a view on Souness. He was supported to the very end. This is what we do. Liverpool fans are extremely loyal and give the manager respect. But that does not mean it is right.

    Rafa deserves a lot of respect for making us fiercly competitive. Definitely. The issue is the next step and why we fans are frustrated is because we believe the next step is attainable and we see Rafa not doing it. And we see Rafa making mistakes. Someone said that we are second and competitive in Europe. Yes that is true (although now 3rd) but another take is that whilst being near the top of the league we have not got the maximum out of our squad. The basic requirement for me is for a manager to get the best of his squad. But look at our players. How many have been playing to form? Rafa is limited and he irritates the fuck out of me. Whilst he’s done so much I personally believe it to be standard and believe any of the top managers would have achieved the same. Give Fergy our squad and give Rafa Fergy’s squad I believe Rafa would lose out.

  • CanadianKopite

    Some have mentioned that singing of Rafa’s name by the fans and others have mentioned the lack of atmosphere from the Kop unless it a big CL night or Man U or Chelksi. I would like to make a few comments:

    First – it is great to sing Rafa’s name as he is presently our manager. The problem I have os singing the Torres bounce when he isn’t even on the bench, same for Stevie G. How do you think it makes the other players feel? Where is the chanting/singing for the guys who are on the field?

    Second – the Kop used to start singing at around 1 or 1:30 and never stopped until after the game was over. What happened? Where is the deafening noise for each home game?

    Third – the famous This Is Anfield sign used to be a warning of not getting much today in the game. Now it is just a token for the players to touch. We have to start rebuilding fortress Anfield by getting the right team selected, subbing when it is necessary not when it is too late, and the Kop getting back to singing for all the players on the field, not just a few or the one who is up off the bench running up and down the sidelines.

  • CanadianKopite

    Some have mentioned that singing of Rafa’s name by the fans and others have mentioned the lack of atmosphere from the Kop unless it a big CL night or Man U or Chelksi. I would like to make a few comments:

    First – it is great to sing Rafa’s name as he is presently our manager. The problem I have os singing the Torres bounce when he isn’t even on the bench, same for Stevie G. How do you think it makes the other players feel? Where is the chanting/singing for the guys who are on the field?

    Second – the Kop used to start singing at around 1 or 1:30 and never stopped until after the game was over. What happened? Where is the deafening noise for each home game?

    Third – the famous This Is Anfield sign used to be a warning of not getting much today in the game. Now it is just a token for the players to touch. We have to start rebuilding fortress Anfield by getting the right team selected, subbing when it is necessary not when it is too late, and the Kop getting back to singing for all the players on the field, not just a few or the one who is up off the bench running up and down the sidelines.

  • CanadianKopite

    Some have mentioned that singing of Rafa’s name by the fans and others have mentioned the lack of atmosphere from the Kop unless it a big CL night or Man U or Chelksi. I would like to make a few comments:

    First – it is great to sing Rafa’s name as he is presently our manager. The problem I have os singing the Torres bounce when he isn’t even on the bench, same for Stevie G. How do you think it makes the other players feel? Where is the chanting/singing for the guys who are on the field?

    Second – the Kop used to start singing at around 1 or 1:30 and never stopped until after the game was over. What happened? Where is the deafening noise for each home game?

    Third – the famous This Is Anfield sign used to be a warning of not getting much today in the game. Now it is just a token for the players to touch. We have to start rebuilding fortress Anfield by getting the right team selected, subbing when it is necessary not when it is too late, and the Kop getting back to singing for all the players on the field, not just a few or the one who is up off the bench running up and down the sidelines.

  • Daft Lad

    Absolutely agree re: atmosphere and singing…

    If we want the players to fight tooth and nail and show a never say die attitude we as fans need to do the same and it starts by singing. We’re proud of our history yet have broken away from it by only creating noise on the big occasion. Every game at Anfield is a big occasion and we should get behind the team to rev them up….. I sat in the lower centenary stand for Bolton at home and for Everton at home and no one around me wanted to sing. In fact, one guy kept covering his ears… okay my singing might be gash but no need for that… I suspect he was thinking “fuck off back to the KOP”….

    I also agree that if Torres is not playing there is no real need to sing his song but if he’s in the stand a couple of rounds is okay… providing we also get behind the team.

  • Daft Lad

    Absolutely agree re: atmosphere and singing…

    If we want the players to fight tooth and nail and show a never say die attitude we as fans need to do the same and it starts by singing. We’re proud of our history yet have broken away from it by only creating noise on the big occasion. Every game at Anfield is a big occasion and we should get behind the team to rev them up….. I sat in the lower centenary stand for Bolton at home and for Everton at home and no one around me wanted to sing. In fact, one guy kept covering his ears… okay my singing might be gash but no need for that… I suspect he was thinking “fuck off back to the KOP”….

    I also agree that if Torres is not playing there is no real need to sing his song but if he’s in the stand a couple of rounds is okay… providing we also get behind the team.

  • Daft Lad

    Absolutely agree re: atmosphere and singing…

    If we want the players to fight tooth and nail and show a never say die attitude we as fans need to do the same and it starts by singing. We’re proud of our history yet have broken away from it by only creating noise on the big occasion. Every game at Anfield is a big occasion and we should get behind the team to rev them up….. I sat in the lower centenary stand for Bolton at home and for Everton at home and no one around me wanted to sing. In fact, one guy kept covering his ears… okay my singing might be gash but no need for that… I suspect he was thinking “fuck off back to the KOP”….

    I also agree that if Torres is not playing there is no real need to sing his song but if he’s in the stand a couple of rounds is okay… providing we also get behind the team.

  • CanadianKopite

    Daft Lad, thanks for backing me up. The Kop is so quiet on some days it is embarassing, other days we go like crazy for awhile and then it’s silent again.
    There should be singing/chanting throughout the game for the players on the pitch, after all aren’t they the ones who are going to win the match for us???

  • CanadianKopite

    Daft Lad, thanks for backing me up. The Kop is so quiet on some days it is embarassing, other days we go like crazy for awhile and then it’s silent again.
    There should be singing/chanting throughout the game for the players on the pitch, after all aren’t they the ones who are going to win the match for us???

  • CanadianKopite

    Daft Lad, thanks for backing me up. The Kop is so quiet on some days it is embarassing, other days we go like crazy for awhile and then it’s silent again.
    There should be singing/chanting throughout the game for the players on the pitch, after all aren’t they the ones who are going to win the match for us???

  • Deano

    Well Matt, I’ve been patiently waiting (having the benefit of hindsight) since Real Madrid, no comment this week !!!! Feeling a little embarrassed now, so you should.

  • Deano

    Well Matt, I’ve been patiently waiting (having the benefit of hindsight) since Real Madrid, no comment this week !!!! Feeling a little embarrassed now, so you should.

  • Deano

    Well Matt, I’ve been patiently waiting (having the benefit of hindsight) since Real Madrid, no comment this week !!!! Feeling a little embarrassed now, so you should.

  • http://www.thisisanfield.com Matt Ladson

    Deano, embarassed? Im elated. Ive always said I hoped Rafa would turn it around. It’s still too late to win the title but the reason for ‘no comment’ from me is the fact he’s got the decisions right this week, quite clearly. If only such tactics had been deployed vs Boro, Stoke, Fulham and Hull and we might now be saying we can actually win the league. Only the most optimistic person would think the Mancs will drop 8 points between now and the end of May. Enjoy the wins and look forward to Rome.

  • http://www.thisisanfield.com Matt Ladson

    Deano, embarassed? Im elated. Ive always said I hoped Rafa would turn it around. It’s still too late to win the title but the reason for ‘no comment’ from me is the fact he’s got the decisions right this week, quite clearly. If only such tactics had been deployed vs Boro, Stoke, Fulham and Hull and we might now be saying we can actually win the league. Only the most optimistic person would think the Mancs will drop 8 points between now and the end of May. Enjoy the wins and look forward to Rome.

  • http://www.thisisanfield.com Matt Ladson

    Deano, embarassed? Im elated. Ive always said I hoped Rafa would turn it around. It’s still too late to win the title but the reason for ‘no comment’ from me is the fact he’s got the decisions right this week, quite clearly. If only such tactics had been deployed vs Boro, Stoke, Fulham and Hull and we might now be saying we can actually win the league. Only the most optimistic person would think the Mancs will drop 8 points between now and the end of May. Enjoy the wins and look forward to Rome.

  • Deano

    So another kneejerk change of opinion, he’s the best isn’t he (Rafa), looking forward to Rome !!!

    Your latest argument suggests we can beat Man U, Chelsea, Real Madrid etc. and we should also beat Stoke, Boro, Fulham, Hull. So we should win every game and never be beaten. Not only are you fickle but deluded also.

    Here’s a question: Is it better to beat Man U and draw with Stoke or the other way round ?

  • Deano

    So another kneejerk change of opinion, he’s the best isn’t he (Rafa), looking forward to Rome !!!

    Your latest argument suggests we can beat Man U, Chelsea, Real Madrid etc. and we should also beat Stoke, Boro, Fulham, Hull. So we should win every game and never be beaten. Not only are you fickle but deluded also.

    Here’s a question: Is it better to beat Man U and draw with Stoke or the other way round ?