Much of the attention following the debacle at Fulham on Saturday has focused on Rafa Benitez‘s withdrawal of Fernando Torres after an hour, with the score level at 1-1.

Fair enough, Torres isn’t fully fit and an £11m player should be able to come on and provide something up front, shame that player was Ryan Babel but that’s another story. I don’t see why Torres’ withdrawal has been made the total centre of debate.

For me, the bigger question should be why Yossi Benayoun, our most creative player on the pitch at 2-1 down, was withdrawn with 12 minutes remaining when fully fit.

Benayoun himself didn’t look impressed with the decision and it seemed to signal Benitez was happy to settle for a defeat and rest players ahead of the Champions League match at Lyon on Wednesday. It was throwing the towel in like at Reading a few years back.

Furthermore, what, exactly, happened to the five players who were seemingly fully fit and available on Friday, yet weren’t in the squad. Where they rested ahead of the Lyon match? If so it’s a huge gamble which has backfired on Benitez.

The players are sub keeper Diego Cavalieri – who was replaced by 19 year old Peter Gulacsi who has never been involved in the first team before – centre backs Martin Skrtel and Daniel Agger – I’d have preferred either to Sotirios Kyrgiakos – left back Fabio Aurelio – a better option that Insua who looks tired and poor defensively – and forward David Ngog – a better option than Babel and arguably Voronin too.

The thing is, none of them are exactly key players so why would they be rested ahead of the Lyon match? I can see the logic in resting one of Agger or Skrtel but why both? I cannot see the logic in not including Ngog or Cavalieri, or Aurelio.

The question is, where they rested or has the Liverpool squad been hit with swine flu? Lucas Leiva was reported to have “flu” (not swine flu according to Benitez) and missed the Arsenal defeat, while Alberto Aquilani had “flu” (again Benitez said not swine flu) following the Arsenal match.

If the Reds squad has been hit with flu, nobody has confirmed it.

One thing is for sure ahead of the Lyon match, with Glen Johnson and Martin Kelly both injured, and Philipp Degen not in the Europe squad, Benitez has a huge problem at right back. Youngster Stephen Darby is the only fully fit and available option, unless Rafa opts to switch Carragher there.

It’s a massive week ahead and Liverpool fans should just hope some of the players out injured regain fitness, and fast.

  • paul

    Do you think rafa has inspired mr babel with confidence ? Does a ‘prima donner’ footballer who knows his days are numbered bust a gut for a manager who wants rid ?

  • paul

    Do you think rafa has inspired mr babel with confidence ? Does a ‘prima donner’ footballer who knows his days are numbered bust a gut for a manager who wants rid ?

  • paul

    Do you think rafa has inspired mr babel with confidence ? Does a ‘prima donner’ footballer who knows his days are numbered bust a gut for a manager who wants rid ?

  • afaris

    @laughable
    if you know more about about football,you would consider the importance of a player’s attitude,instead of just focusing on talent alone..but i guess you dont

  • afaris

    @laughable
    if you know more about about football,you would consider the importance of a player’s attitude,instead of just focusing on talent alone..but i guess you dont

  • afaris

    @laughable
    if you know more about about football,you would consider the importance of a player’s attitude,instead of just focusing on talent alone..but i guess you dont

  • sleme

    DannyDFC and the rest of the knee jerkers,

    Pull your head out of the sand. The lazy media tripe about Rafa having millions to spend is getting on my nerves. Please spend some time reading articles which are properly researched and what I would call proper journos. Tomkins is one that comes to mind (you can Google him). His piece after a couple of hours with Rafa gives you a real insight as to what constraints he is working on. How it would be nice to have good cover in reserves (high wages) or tall defenders (expensive). How every team uses zonal marking (what do you call man at the back post) and the fact that man marking is also not a fool proof system.

    Rather than going nuts like the rest of the mainstream media on how LFC is purportedly underachieving, perhaps you and the rest of the kneejerk brigade should look at it that LFC have over achieved!

    Also read the well researched posting by BHB at RAWK where you would be able to clearly see how Rafa bought cheap to sell at a profit in order to buy better class.(http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=249365.0)

    In effect, he has spent less than 100 million squids (NET!) since coming on board.

    Please have some class when commenting. I would like to believe that we are still the most knowledgeable bunch of fans out there.

  • sleme

    DannyDFC and the rest of the knee jerkers,

    Pull your head out of the sand. The lazy media tripe about Rafa having millions to spend is getting on my nerves. Please spend some time reading articles which are properly researched and what I would call proper journos. Tomkins is one that comes to mind (you can Google him). His piece after a couple of hours with Rafa gives you a real insight as to what constraints he is working on. How it would be nice to have good cover in reserves (high wages) or tall defenders (expensive). How every team uses zonal marking (what do you call man at the back post) and the fact that man marking is also not a fool proof system.

    Rather than going nuts like the rest of the mainstream media on how LFC is purportedly underachieving, perhaps you and the rest of the kneejerk brigade should look at it that LFC have over achieved!

    Also read the well researched posting by BHB at RAWK where you would be able to clearly see how Rafa bought cheap to sell at a profit in order to buy better class.(http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=249365.0)

    In effect, he has spent less than 100 million squids (NET!) since coming on board.

    Please have some class when commenting. I would like to believe that we are still the most knowledgeable bunch of fans out there.

  • sleme

    DannyDFC and the rest of the knee jerkers,

    Pull your head out of the sand. The lazy media tripe about Rafa having millions to spend is getting on my nerves. Please spend some time reading articles which are properly researched and what I would call proper journos. Tomkins is one that comes to mind (you can Google him). His piece after a couple of hours with Rafa gives you a real insight as to what constraints he is working on. How it would be nice to have good cover in reserves (high wages) or tall defenders (expensive). How every team uses zonal marking (what do you call man at the back post) and the fact that man marking is also not a fool proof system.

    Rather than going nuts like the rest of the mainstream media on how LFC is purportedly underachieving, perhaps you and the rest of the kneejerk brigade should look at it that LFC have over achieved!

    Also read the well researched posting by BHB at RAWK where you would be able to clearly see how Rafa bought cheap to sell at a profit in order to buy better class.(http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=249365.0)

    In effect, he has spent less than 100 million squids (NET!) since coming on board.

    Please have some class when commenting. I would like to believe that we are still the most knowledgeable bunch of fans out there.

  • aaron

    why is babel so bad? Or rated so badly? He has massive potential just that he doesn’t have the freedom to realise it. Who watched his wonder strike against lyon? Only for krygiakos t mess that up… :( but wed’s strike was a repeat of what happened against Chelsea in that semi. But i think now that lloris is a much better keeper. And voronin is no good. I’ve heard we’re gonna buyu elero eljia. I think we should reduce the price by throwing voronin in. He is past he’s prime and Ngog AND babel are much. much bettter options.

  • aaron

    why is babel so bad? Or rated so badly? He has massive potential just that he doesn’t have the freedom to realise it. Who watched his wonder strike against lyon? Only for krygiakos t mess that up… :( but wed’s strike was a repeat of what happened against Chelsea in that semi. But i think now that lloris is a much better keeper. And voronin is no good. I’ve heard we’re gonna buyu elero eljia. I think we should reduce the price by throwing voronin in. He is past he’s prime and Ngog AND babel are much. much bettter options.

  • aaron

    why is babel so bad? Or rated so badly? He has massive potential just that he doesn’t have the freedom to realise it. Who watched his wonder strike against lyon? Only for krygiakos t mess that up… :( but wed’s strike was a repeat of what happened against Chelsea in that semi. But i think now that lloris is a much better keeper. And voronin is no good. I’ve heard we’re gonna buyu elero eljia. I think we should reduce the price by throwing voronin in. He is past he’s prime and Ngog AND babel are much. much bettter options.

  • Rome 77

    Sleme do you really think that these sack Rafa “fans” will put any
    effort to researching the facts. They would rather take the easy route
    and form what they think,is their opinion when really it’s just the media
    telling them what to think,ie man marking,rotation,transfers.
    And all the myths that Tomkins (a liverpool fan )has proven to be wrong
    will be ignored in favour of some Manc/Chav fan in the media.
    Or maybe they’ll quote Liverpool’s worst manager ever who the media
    have recently dragged in to try and add some weight to their attacks.
    The way these “fans” have taken over some forums its like the lunatics
    are running the asylum.And nothing good will ever come from that .
    Class is something they missed too much of, and something they’ll
    never have

  • Rome 77

    Sleme do you really think that these sack Rafa “fans” will put any
    effort to researching the facts. They would rather take the easy route
    and form what they think,is their opinion when really it’s just the media
    telling them what to think,ie man marking,rotation,transfers.
    And all the myths that Tomkins (a liverpool fan )has proven to be wrong
    will be ignored in favour of some Manc/Chav fan in the media.
    Or maybe they’ll quote Liverpool’s worst manager ever who the media
    have recently dragged in to try and add some weight to their attacks.
    The way these “fans” have taken over some forums its like the lunatics
    are running the asylum.And nothing good will ever come from that .
    Class is something they missed too much of, and something they’ll
    never have

  • Rome 77

    Sleme do you really think that these sack Rafa “fans” will put any
    effort to researching the facts. They would rather take the easy route
    and form what they think,is their opinion when really it’s just the media
    telling them what to think,ie man marking,rotation,transfers.
    And all the myths that Tomkins (a liverpool fan )has proven to be wrong
    will be ignored in favour of some Manc/Chav fan in the media.
    Or maybe they’ll quote Liverpool’s worst manager ever who the media
    have recently dragged in to try and add some weight to their attacks.
    The way these “fans” have taken over some forums its like the lunatics
    are running the asylum.And nothing good will ever come from that .
    Class is something they missed too much of, and something they’ll
    never have