Liverpudlian

Tell us something we don’t know, Fergie

The United manager’s assertion that Luis Suarez should never play for Liverpool again, based on a rebuffal of a hand shake, would be taken as a joke and ridiculed as whisky inspired mutterings from some biased sad old git if it came from some seventy year old geezer sat on his own in the pub.

Alarmingly though, this is being broadcast all round the world and being given credence simply because he manages our greatest opponents.

Ordinarily such comments are readily and routinely ignored as being spoken in the heat of the moment, just after a game, when tempers are flared and lucidity is in short supply, but if we have learnt one thing from Sir Alex, is that he is as sharp as a tack and every single word he utters is meaningful and well thought through.

Yet again we are seeing another carefully orchestrated part of their ongoing campaign to smear the name of our number seven with carefully chosen words and actions that they hope will see him driven out of the premiership. Of course, his fellow cronies in the L.M.A, the sweet FA & the fawning press will trot out every word as gospel in support now that the stitched up ban has been served and public enemy number one is again posing a threat to his “dignified” club.

Even in a relatively poor display where he is still finding his feet in terms of match sharpness, Luis still showed he had the quality that no one else on the pitch possessed and of course, Fergie is all too aware of that and can see it – even through those sunbed goggles. Bless him, of course he thinks he should never play for us again, he is bound to, isn’t he? But it has nothing to do with racism, handshakes or diving, it is purely about self preservation and nothing else. A team built around our mercurial talent would be a threat to them that is every bit as real as their noisy neighbours. He will know that if we continue to support the lad off the pitch and, unlike currently, bring in the quality of players on it to help him achieve his aims, Luis Suarez can be as effective in the premiership as the Messi is for Barca is in La Liga.

OK but let me continue this piece by stating two things before we go any further.

Firstly, that I thought Luis Suarez should have shaken the hand offered by Patrice Evra before the kick off. Regardless of everything that had gone on before, a simple handshake would have diffused a hell of a lot of the tension from the situation, drawn some kind of line, however feint, under the whole scenario and for the good of the game as a whole and sportsmanship in particular, it was the right thing to do.

Secondly, I thought Manchester United were the better side in all departments and deserved their win against a Liverpool side that, apart from the first and last ten minutes of the game, were generally poor.

However there were several incidents during the afternoon though that will probably not even get a mention in the media, bearing in mind the prevalent anti LFC / Suarez agenda, but in each case, a split second of timing and a different outcome would have been pivotal in terms of course of the match itself and the resultant Sunday morning headlines.

The implications of the first tackle made by Patrice Evra on Luis Suarez would not have been lost on anyone and what might have been the outcome based on the referee’s perspective. For that split second before contact, months of pent up frustration by both players, waiting for this moment and both would have been totally focussed on a clean contact with the ball knowing that anything else may well have affected the outcome of the entire game. A dive, a foul, maybe a card plus of course the inevitable confrontation by both sets of players would have surely occurred. Sure enough then, early in the game, it looked like it may happen as Luis raced after a through ball and that envisaged confrontation looked assured until our friend Rio intervened to literally become the fall guy and hilariously took the full brunt of the clattering meant for our number seven by a player still clearing his head and peering through the red mist.

Of course we will never know what might have happened but the sort of contact on Suarez that was perpetrated on Ferdinand would surely have merited a straight red and the consequences would have been so damaging for a player that was so lucky his team mate inadvertently got in the way.

Now I have not seen much of the sports news but, of course, the sight of Luis kicking the ball away at half time was, of course, being shown but surprise, surprise not the tackle from behind that led to his outburst of frustration? All season long we have seen red cards for players winning the ball cleanly and then making contact with the opponent. So how come if Rio did not even accomplish the former but categorically did the latter, no offence was committed, especially bearing in mind he was the last man?

Then we heard of the half time altercation, again instigated by Monsieur Evra trying to enter our changing room.

Finally of course we all saw the after-match celebration by the united captain which was perfectly understandable under the circumstances – no problem. Until that is, even that took an ominous twist that even the referee saw as potentially explosive as, accidentally on purpose, the jubilant Frenchman’s route veered onto collision course with a dejected Uruguayan leaving the pitch.
Even in victory then, this nasty, devious, head-working, piece of work was still looking to cause trouble.

Acting with dignity, as ever eh, Fergie?

Liverpudlian

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  • Geezermj

    I definately agree that what Suarez did was pretty stupid and has put LFC and Kenny in a very difficult and horrible place with the world’s media.
    However, the biggest “disgrace” continues to be Alex Ferguson who continues to act with anything but the grace of a “sir” of this country, who has probably incited fans more than any player could in his time. I list the below (who we currently know about), who he has done nothing but continue to lord and praise who have done far worse than not shake someones hand:

    Giggs – adultery
    Rooney – adultery, granny grabber, thug
    Cantona – performer of the single most unbelieable incident english football has ever seen
    Darren (his own son) – charged with assaulting his wife
    Rio – proven or not do we really believe he didn’t have an illegal substance in his body?
    Keane – general thug, regularly charged with bring the game into disrepute, turncoat on his own country and fellow players in major tournament
    Evra – proven liar (pre-suarez) and key player in France national team revolt

    I therefore find “he should never play again” a pretty hypocritical statement!

  • az7777

    good read , fergie is worried about suarez cos he is world class, what about rio, rooney, keane, cantona, great role models for world football for what they done not too long ago..

  • Lfcguilt

    The bottom line is suarez was guilty, Kenny was guilt and the club was guilty and that is why they apoligised.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emmanuel-Alonso/100000723137039 Emmanuel Alonso

    A stitched ban.Evil hearted Evra,why didnt you race your hand high like you did to other kop players.Evra is an embarrassment,he was not ashamed to do that kind of witchcraft .i.e. dropping his hand.Why did he pull Suarez’s hand if he himself has a good character,essesss! Ferguson should never have lived in this world and God must take him out!

  • Mancunian1

    Liverpool fans are dillusional it’s gas I’f you think Suarez is even half the player Rooney is you’d need help Suarez got an 8 match ban for admitting he said negro he’s a scumbag and deserves everything he got and right after the match typical dillusional fans trying to blame evra for what suarez clearly done Liverpool are a badly run club with a ignorant manager and a very average side and if u think liverpool are a threat to united u really are dillusional keep wastin money on players like Carroll and you’ll be lucky to stay a midtale side

  • Rayelewis

    If any readers missed my “experience” face-to face with Fergie, read on. 
    Place: Walsall Broadway,  400m from Walsall’s  Ground -a midweek game in which Fergie’s son was in the visiting team.I was with my son-in-law & my young grandson walking to the ground when a car pulled up  “Ay, you lot,  which way to the caraprk ?” We recognised Fergie right away and we obviously wanted to help him by-pass the traffic and we hesitated working out the quickest way. Not good enough ! He turned to his driver and shouted “F*ck this lot of Midland Yokels they’re f*ck*n clueless go straight on”  I shouted after him “thankyou Mr Ferguson” – he simply put 2 fingers up and again shouted “oh f*ck-*ff you useless C***”. My grandson often reminds me of this episode and even now in his 20s says that Ferguson must be the most foul -mouthed nasty individual he has ever met. I;m in my 70s, worked all over the world, met top Government brass and worked with some of the roughest blokes under the sun, but I certainly agree with him.  The man is an imbecile, never happy than when he is interfering in other people’s business.ans should NEVER have been knighted – wonder how much money changed hands there ? his son was a shady dealer and they do say like father….and the gullible world thinks he’s wonderful – idiots !

  • Rayelewis

    If any readers missed my “experience” face-to face with Fergie, read on. 
    Place: Walsall Broadway,  400m from Walsall’s  Ground -a midweek game in which Fergie’s son was in the visiting team.I was with my son-in-law & my young grandson walking to the ground when a car pulled up  “Ay, you lot,  which way to the caraprk ?” We recognised Fergie right away and we obviously wanted to help him by-pass the traffic and we hesitated working out the quickest way. Not good enough ! He turned to his driver and shouted “F*ck this lot of Midland Yokels they’re f*ck*n clueless go straight on”  I shouted after him “thankyou Mr Ferguson” – he simply put 2 fingers up and again shouted “oh f*ck-*ff you useless C***”. My grandson often reminds me of this episode and even now in his 20s says that Ferguson must be the most foul -mouthed nasty individual he has ever met. I;m in my 70s, worked all over the world, met top Government brass and worked with some of the roughest blokes under the sun, but I certainly agree with him.  The man is an imbecile, never happy than when he is interfering in other people’s business.ans should NEVER have been knighted – wonder how much money changed hands there ? his son was a shady dealer and they do say like father….and the gullible world thinks he’s wonderful – idiots !

  • ShArQ

    Sick deluded liverfools, think twice before you say something. SAF is not against Suarez ‘Cause he is GOOD, Luis is a damn cannibal, a loafer of the street who has no manners. When he shows no respect to anybody, why in the hell are you desperate to defend him. Is there no liverpool without Suarez? No one is bigger than a club. If Kenny follows this rule, then he will have discipline and commitment from everyone. Maybe then you would have been in a better position than you are currently, which is 7th and no prospect of any European football even next season.

  • ShArQ

    People saying there was no evidence that Suarez actually said anything racist, should look at his defense. He said he did say the N word, but it was OK from where he came from. Why are you arses always in denial?

  • Yogesh3668

    Fergie should look at himself in the mirror before passing any comments on his opponents. Everybody remembers CANTONA’s kung fu kick and still he came back to play for Manu. What happened to Rio Ferdinand who deliberately failed a drug test and who is still in a manu shirt. What does the manager has to say about these two. After their respective shameful behaviour was there anybody who came forward to say they should not ever be a Utd player again. Lastly Evra is not a Saint either everybody remembers what happened during the last world cup. So guys please can anybody tell SAG to shut his mouth and keep it for his training sessions.

  • uloa

    This is private life and i think it should be private and not public. But you forgot what Downing has done. He hit (punch) his ex-girlfriend. It is not so shiny in liverpool that you think.

  • Colin

    Bob Marley, was once asked what it was like to represent both black and white people (dad white, mom black) and he responded “I dont represent black people, I dont represent white people, I represent God.” The beautiful game is no place for the trouble of the world to rear its ugly head, its a place where the troubles of the world should go to die.

  • RedNate

     I have watched this from the side and above overhead view dozens of
    times now, and there is absolutely no doubt that this whole fiasco was
    premeditated by Evra. His actions were a disgrace! As Suarez fully
    extends his hand, Evra lets his own hand go limp and drop its down and
    away slightly towards his hip……Suarez (looking directly at Evra’s hand
    movement), assumes Evra doesn’t want to know, and moves on, and Evra
    eagerly watches (not the next player coming towards him for a handshake,
    but ….) Suarez place his hand into the player’s next to him, at which
    point he immediately plays up to the cameras, making a huge scene……as if
    Suarez had snubbed him. If that wasn’t bad enough, his actions after
    the final whistle were repulsive, and he should have been at least been
    booked for inciting the crowd…..or sent off. The whole thing was
    Evra……and if the media had any balls they should report this situation
    honestly and correctly. Just remember, this fiasco started because of
    the legal remit for the FA to prove that Suarez DID NOT say something
    racist, off the back of Evra’s singing a legal a contest that
    Suarez did! That in itself is no proof, because I could swear a legal
    oath my next door neighbor owes me a fortune, but it is down then to
    prove otherwise. As the FA could NOT find conclusive proof that Suarez
    said one thing or the other, they had to side with the legal oath or be
    embroiled in the legal issue themselves. It is easy to pick on the far
    more successful and talented player from a media perspective too (and
    let’s face it Evra is second rate at best anyway!), and the media don’t want to be
    included in any potential ‘picking on the black man’ legal issues
    either……so Suarez was fair game all round. Evra has taken the p*ss with
    the whole scenario from beginning to end. I think Kharma will come along
    and give Evra a serious injury for what he’s done in this whole affair.
    Evra’s an insult in my book!!!

  • Yuvank

    The FA as usual won’t see anything as far as manu players are concerned.  Evra celebrating and it was not innocent his passing by near suarez n Fergie plenty of hypocrisy..

  • Di

    Yawn, change the records you bitter scousers.  As if your club is anywhare near important enough for anybody to have an agenda against.  Try winning something this century and then people might even take notice of your stature.  For the moment you are inferior in every concievable way.

    • RedNate

       Spoken like a true moron!

  • Ofori Jectey

    Fergie is  a disgrace to man united and as a manager.If refusing a hand shake is wrong than,Cantona diliberately kung fu kicked is wrong.
    Keane diliberately scythed down Aif Inge head and with a career tackle is wrong.
    Ferdinand,missed a drug test is wrong.So wath right has have no liverpoolfc, Ferguson should kept his mouth shut hypocrisy.

  • Anonymous

    luis saurez really did that discrimination on purpose?I did not use racist to refer saurez because I am sure that he is not racist .  ok, you tell him racist for sure. He is bothering every black people. Johnson is black guy and his team mate. Have you ever seen a black guy who supports the racist for any good purpose. Men, he is his team mate and they are friends. Johnson stands for saurez. Cos he surely knows that suarez is not a racist. Have you ever seen a racist trying to hide his hate to the black people by being (let says pretending) a friend of a black guy. Non sense they gave punishment to suarez ( 8 matches) and i didn’t see any official evidence. Go and ask every racist you know in this world, will you be a friend of black people? If he said no problem, come and kill me. Once anybody heard of a racist who is being so nice to just one black guy and he can also get his support when accused as a racist. FA gentlemen(i should not use gentlemen), I just wanna give them some advices. YOU WERE BORN WITH A BRAIN. USE IT. Then yr country will be better. but now shitter.

  • Anonymous

    and Mr genius ferguson, yr remembered yr son, roy keane, yr once captain. A professional player had given up his professional job carrier because of roy keane. you didn’t know that, i know, he didn’t tell you about that. Then he admitted proudly about that he did it on purpose. “On purpose” means ……….I am innocent. Sir alex didn’t say anything. I don’t know how the victim player is still struggling or not after he has given up playing football. Did you say any sorry for the suffered player? Shouldn’t roy keane be banned from sports forever? You stayed silent , i didn’t hear any sorry , may be you are very busy chewing gums. good .. huh ? Now, you suggested to kick out a player of another team. Did he attack any body on purpose? Did he do any racist again.? Cos I just didn’t see any racist behavior during that match except for one thing.and he is done with his punishment at that time, I just saw One refused to shake with another. You want a player to be jobless  cos he didn’t handshake with yr team mate. with which rule?any law to punish that? How many refused to shake hand before this case? They got kicked out from their teams for that?  You even kept yr son who attempts to hurt a player’s rice-pot on purpose. So why not liverpool should keep Saurez for not attacking evra on purpose and didn’t mean injury? Or may be you know something we don’t ? If yes, just share us.I am just a supporter from a small country and you can stay silent or claiming saurez’s manners. Just make urself happy to do anything. But man, don’t chew gums all the time, it will make yr brain loss of thinking about the reality.