Gerry,
just popped back in to say voted a few minutes ago for you (best writer my arse) and the site, best of luck mate.
YNWA.

just voted…. who was I supposed to vote for??

There you go: One vote for you. Please make sure you get the live txt coverage of the Man c game done. The Portsmouth game was brilliant to follow although it made me grow Gandalf-like hairstyle during the last 30 minutes.

Voted, Good luck Gerry you deserve it, long may it continue

Done Gerry and all of God’s best. I have this feeling Kopblog, TIA and you will run off with these awards. May you and Reina keep picking them in a row!

One from me as well
Thankyou for the intelligent and well thought out discourses, has it really been a year since the last one?, well you deserve it as much this year as you did last

just gave my vote in. thats my good deed for the day. hopefully fulham do theres a take some points off them bastards 2nite………. wishful thinking

YNWA

DONE… jesus christ Ged, you have to win, I made you sound like…. er… jesus christ.

They won’t even bother with their blog award, they’ll just forward you for an automatic Pulitzer, Palm D’or and a nobel peace prize!

Thanks a million guys, I really appreciate it and let’s face it, a man can never have too many ash-trays!
Just to massage my ego even further the site has also made it on to the final shortlist for Best Sports & Recreational blog at the Irish Blog Awards which take place this Saturday http://awards.ie/blogawards/
So fingers crossed!
But on to more serious matters and fuck those bunch of useless Fulham fuckers! I feel a fresh blog coming on.

Signed, good luck!

Hey Gerry, I hope you are the messiah on this one too. Well kinda! More like you evolved to be the best blogger in cyber-town. Go – go – go Charles Darwin!

voted….

Keep up the good work!

Hey Gerry, Voted!

All the best!!

Hope kopblog wins.

You got a vote from me Gerry, havnt commented for a while as been flat out like a lizard drinking for the past few months but have tried to read most comments.

Off topic a bit..

We are now 5 points behind the Scums who won 3-0 at old toilet last night

Sigh.. which means.. one draw will signal the end of our title challenge.

Gerry all the best to you. Your commitment to Liverpool fans should mean something. I think the best compliment we can ever give you is voting you for keeping us as the best knowledgeable fans in the world. Keep it going.

Fulham played with a fear in their collective hearts last night. The Scholes goal was a class effort, I have to hand it to him. Though utd didn’t have to turn it on, they still didn’t look thaaaaat convincing. So there is every hope that we can pull off a miracle.

For all those who can feel the scum are a smug lot, have laugh on this poor bastard. Oh how I laughed!

http://www.insideworldsoccer.com/2009/02/man-united-fan-tricked-by-liverpudlian.html

Sir Gerry, my vote has been cast. All good wishes and keep up the great writing. Kopblog will be the best blog for the best champions of Europe and soon-to-be champs of England. Cheers!

Good Luck Gerry mate, the vote has been cast, ‘and the Oscar goes too” oops wrong show..

Random fact I read in the papers today – liverpool have been denied by the woodwork 18 times this season – more than any other side.

Keep up the super work Gerry! YNWA!

Voted for you Gerry.
ManU got all the good luck today.If HW is our best ref then God help us-he made some howlers.Ronaldo shouldn’t even have been on the pitch to sore a good goal if he had got the 2 yellow cards he deserved, and Blackburn were denied a stone cold penalty apart from hitting the post.

Top man, top blog, vote in… hopefully we’ll win something this year. As long as Howard Webb isn’t the judge !

It has been a slow-news two weeks for Liverpool, so I con understand the slowness in here. But i still know which blog to comment on.

The scum are 8 points ahead, we got a game in hand.
We cannot afford any more slip ups, this is most probably the most defining week of the season for LFC and our beloved manager who has still not put pen to paper and the Sunday rags are having a field day with it.
The scums forthcoming fixture congestion will not matter a jot if we do not produce on the pitch what we are capable of.
If we dont produce the results in our next few games I feel we are in for some massive changes, not all of them will be positive.
I hope and pray we can get off to a good start against Citeh today, if not I dread the consequences.

NO Agger…
OMG…

Look like Agger on his out

What are the chances of Goldilocks Luacas scoring 2day?.The Mancs have replaced Keane, Van N and Cantona.Where would we be without SG?.Have 2 win . No excuses.

Why is it so quiet? I can only hear the City fans singing.

0-0 at half time…Oh dear

Benayoun should play behind Torres while Kuyt should moe to the right. We need to start hitting the target. Shay Given’s gloves are still too clean for my liking.

That should be ‘move’ not ‘moe’…lol

bellamy….Oh dear… 0-1

Disaster, time to get Babel, El Zahr and Ngog on.Just do it-Wenger won the title in his first full season @ Highbury.

OMG….offside……else 0-2

1-1 Kuyt!!!

We are back… Come on u reds

wow, i cant believe we didnt get that hand ball called. blantant, goal saving handball to block an empty net.

7 points…. I think our title challenge should be over…with Scum’s form is so damn good at the moment

hand ball given would be harsh for Dunn..
Its ball hits the hand… not hand stopped the ball..

skeat, yeah…but his hand is fully outstretched in front of him, blocking a goal bound header – no less.

you have got be kidding if you think that would be harsh.

i’m so hurt by this result…mainly because the especially in the first half of the second half, we didnt look up for it at all. lucas was very disappointing for me, and i usually support him against his critics. his match awareness was so slow…he took extra long to make a pass, and they were often wayward. he can do better.

it was always going to be difficult for us, having gerrard and xabi off…two of our best performers this season for sure. i am just so disappointed and frustrated at the way it panned out.

city did have several chances to have won the game as well.

that handball for me, is still so frustrating. you know it would have been given at old trashford. oh well

YNWA

With Manure’s form I’m finding it hard to see how we can win the title now.

Title challenge……..over…I would say..
since Scum’s form is so good..

Howard webb did Liverpool a great injustice yesterday where Ron-diver should have been sent off..

i think utd have to lose 3 and we have to win every remaining match.

which would be very hard….

kompany could easily have been sent off today as well.

we now have more draws in the league than any other side. 10 draws…20 points is a lot to drop

I have finished arguing with a “true LFC fan” who told me… in order for me to become a “real” LFC fan, I would have to:

1/ Fuck Rafa for all the bad results, no matter what the results are
2/ Fuck Lucas, Dossena when they are played and not to say any good things about them

The LFC fans standards are degrading into low class glory hunters…

for a fan like me who has been supporting LFC for really 17 years now…

It is so depressing to see all those glory hunters… baying for blood everytime we can’t win…as if that winning is our god given rights..

I don’t like giving up,but the Reds should use their energy to win the Eoropean Champions Cup now and not to use it pursuing ManUre who are in good form and referees seem to be on their side as well.
Torres is not the man he was except in flashes and,IMHO,Lucas is in Rafa’s blind spot and not a Liverpool player.
Why oh why do the Reds waste time by passing back to start going forward again.I know it gives players up front a bit of a rest but it also gives the opposition one too.
Oh sod it,on with the Real Madrid game.

Jackhill,

when the opposition is playing with 10 man behind the ball..and having a fast player in front, AKA bellamy.. what do you expect?

I expect the Reds to be more accurate Skeat-instead of making it just a leg-race.

Yep, true enough..

This has been the bigggest problem of the team… unable to break down a packed defense..

hope that this would be improved soon…

Dear Gerry,

I will start my latest contribution (3 of 3).
I have been an avid fan of your editorials and Blog for a long time and have admired them without actually registering to add my comment,because I am not fully computer literate, my 12 yrs old Grandson is helping me to submit my opinion.(As honest as it is.)
I even voted for you in the latest poll.
I have been a Liverpool supporter since my first visit to Anfield (boys pen) with my father in 1968.
I have owned and still own 5 Season tickets in the Main Stand since 1973.
I am an Expat who gets to use my season tickets as often as I can, my family and friends use them when they are not available to me.
Please excuse my grammar and spelling as I know that there are a few university graduates here (arseholes) who seem to think that that their “informed opinion”, is enough to bully and intimidate genuine Livepool FC. fans who speak from the heart by criticising their spelling,grammar or opinions.
A good few honest supporters have left this forum for expressing their opinion and have been slated off with remarks such as”vitriolic,abusive, back your opinion up with facts, you have a victim mentality!”.remarks from these “so called supporters who think that they have more football intelligence than them.
This forum has lost alot of genuine Liverpool supporters because of these”people”.
You know who you are,who have caused these departures: Lurgan Kop, Skeat,Alec the Red, dinny, etc, the list goes on of Bullies who are responsible for our loss of genuine supporters such as FS and others.
I would like to know how many games they have attended and not watched free loading on ther PC or reading the latest internet comments on other Blogs which they are no doubt members of too.
They seem to think that anybody who expresses an opinion here that is not aligned to theirs is either being vitriolic (whatever that means?),
abusive or has verbal diahorrhea, talkin a load of sh*t.
I suggest these “people” are the genuine armchair supporters.
I will now “comment” on todays game against Man City, if thats ok with you bullies?
I will be suprised if this posting is allowed to remain here for long and will be deleted by the “powers that be”.
I am sorry to say that the current situation, ie depth of squad, attitude and skills of some of our players, is down to one man only, Mr Rafael Benitez.
He has a history of stubborness, so called “attention to detail” and a total lack of man managment.
FFS he could most probably write a synopsis and 9000 page essay on how to ride a bike!!!!
The only way to learn is, in 4 hrs is to get on it and do it!
I know that we have some negative influence from the current owners who are only interested in making money out of the “deal” but lets not forget how much money they have consented to allow him “King Rafa” to spend.
Keane is the latest example,an absolute disgrace the way he was treated here, a pawn in Rafas political game to gain control.
Babel, 12 millions of Pounds, 2 years later, umpteen opportunities, nothing except a mediocre, confidence lacking individual.
Dossena, a club record signing for a “defender”,absolute joke!
Lucas, another individual who had loads of potential but is just not good enough to hack it in the Premiership but “He” insists on playing him week in and week out!, enough said, I think.
These are just 3 of the most recent total wastes of money,not forgetting the rest who are still on a minimum of 40 grand a week.
Contracts have not been renewed for some of our better players because “He” prefers to blame the others.
Agger has a recent history of drug use which was detected during his injury lay off by an inhouse,club drug test which he failed.
Not a fact which most Liverpool fans would like to hear but he owns several bars in Liverpool town centre and has been at the playboy mentality for a while.
Its no wonder we got no money to sign the top class players we need.
This is all a result of the meglomaniac Benitez.
Would you let him be in full charge of our transfer budget with his record?
He has a track record of problem causing, lack of man managment and only still exists, unfortunately as our manager because of the Euro cup win.
Our Club is being used as a pawn in Benitezs power game because he knows his record stinks, so blame everybody else, Hicks, Gillette,Parry, the tea lady, referees, manure ferguson and his influence on the FA,,,wot a load of shit, wake up and smell the coffee you armchair supporters,let him go now.
The end of another disasterous chapter in our history,nearly as bad as the Souness reign.
I would not allow the so called “Spanish Waiter” to spend another penny of our transfer budget he has wasted enough of our club history and money
OH, and for you university, spell check graduates out there who would ask who the replacement could possibly be,,,,,,,,try Maureen Mourinho,,,a proven man manager with balls AND A POSITVE ATTITUDE…

Kopblog won best sport and recreation blog at the Irish Blog Awards in Dublin on Saturday night.

Congrats Gerry, a multi-award winning blog now!

Well done Gerry!

Congrads Gerry and to all contributors, particularly those who I do not agree with, who educate and/or annoy me, there is nothing so boring as being right and rightous all the time.

For what it’s worth I did not see the match due to work (the Lord’s day … sorry) but it looks like, from what I’ve gleaned from reports etc.. that we did have chances and did not put them away once again. Never give a sucker an even break.

How did the team line-up? Did we create enough? Sounds like a “park-the-bus with a speedy striker job”. Guess it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out that that works handily enough against us at Anfield.

sir roger hunt…i never drove anyone out of this site and i am in no way responsible for members leaving, especially fat scouser. however, i have been told i was a “toothless inbred whose wife left him” by perhaps one of these “liverpool supporters” you are speaking about. moreover, i was told that i had a victim mentality, i didnt tell someone they did.

and mourinho having a positive attitude!?!?! hahaha. you must be joking. the man has no class as a person, and he was tactically undone by rafa 3+ times with a far less skilled squad. positive attitude in what way?!

i’m also glad to see that you are teaching your grandson racist slurs like “spanish waiter” and teaching him to type curse words onto the blog.

i suppose winning the champions league, the fa cup, the euro super cup, and reaching the finals of the carling cup, another champions league, and the world club championships is another poor spell for our club – like souness’ reign. not to mention getting our highest point total for over a decade all with a smaller budget that the rest of the big 4 (except maybe arsenal).

it doesnt take a college degree to see the ignorance in your comments…and i’m not being a bully. that’s a plain fact.

i was wondering when kopking might change his name and come back in here.

btw, congrats again gerry. top man, top blog.

Many people may say that we are having a poor season due to the fact that we are not where we should be, which is, closer to Man U, due to all the draws we have had. And of course, most people blame Rafa for this, with his rotations and speaking up against Fergie, but nobody wants to give him credit for having us up in second place and actually challenging for the title (maybe not anymore, after today) despite having Torres out for most of the games, and Gerrard as well.
I’m not saying kiss the guy’s ass and don’t question his tactics but give the guy some credit at least. Man U and Chelsea spent a shit load more than we did and should be up there fighting. Tottenham have spent a crap load more than we have and look where they are. Newcastle can spend nearly 20mill on Owen and look where they are. Hell Man U spent 17mill on two kids and nobody batted an eyelid. I think over the last few years Rafa has done an amazing job to make Liverpool even challenge for honours given that at least 3 others clubs spend more every summer than Liverpool. We are going to Real Madrid as equals and not underdogs thanks to Rafa and we are still second in the league, ahead of Chelsea thanks to Rafa. Some may question his spending on players like Lucas etc, but what about players like Alonso, Torres, Reina, Mascherano?
We need to give the guy a break and support the team all the way.
Congrats Gerry. Well deserved…

AHahah too right Alec, clearly Sir Roger Hunt is Kopking in disguise. How do i know? the manner in which he wrote the post and the same terminology etc. I was going to argue all of the points by Sir Roger Hunt but I just couldnt be bothered going over everything again.
Some may argue I have ‘rafa tinted glasses’, but I think most of those who arent massive rafa supporters can see the argument against your post.

On to the game. Whilst i am very dissapiointed can i just say Kuyt was immense. Today his movement was superb, his distribution was superb, he had some great shots (6 in total) and his general attitude was superb!!!.

On the other hand, i thought Masch was off today. I recall counting many stray passes, in particular basic ones in the middle of the mark that were played straight to a ManC player and the instantly broke and almost scored as a result. Without Xabi and Stevie we realy do lack the distibuting ideas. Plus most of the game the crosses from wide areas (Dossenna) were poor.

HOWEVER, i know we drew, but we bloody dominated the game. Even without Stevie and Xabi i think the team moved well and played well. Had a number of chances that could have gone in (scrambles in the goal line) and a few more than would have been a goal in any other game. Benny seems to have hardened up and now a real threat. I am now rambling, but I really did think a large part of the team playd well and we were unlucky.

I am now hoping Man U think they have secured the title and slip up on a few games (draws) before they play the arse and Villa.

Bugger!

The fat ladies singing and it aint in a Scouse accent…

Oh well…a definite improvement this year…but clearly still more required…esp. in the area alluded to by Jack Hill and Skeat…we need more ability to beat those teams who are only content on getting a draw (of which we have had too many again this year – though better than last year)…

Interestingly – I read some dumbarse journo now saying Rafa hasnt rotated enough…priceless…do journos in England get paid inversely to their IQ or something…

But in short – we just dont have enough TOP quality players…we have a lot of good ones…and some very hard working ones…but apart from the obvious we lack enough top draw quality to do what manure keep doing – which is to somehow scrape a win due to a moment of genius from one of their players when all the rest are looking like sunday leaguers…

Rather than disparaging Rafa and bemoaning another season without the Title – lets look at the positives – which include another year of improvement and proof that we can maintain a title challenge (which really isnt completely over but is going to require a few bits of luck)…

1 or 2 more quality attacking pieces added to the team for next year and then we may just be able to do it…

Put it this way – at least youre not having to endure the Super 14 Rugby – which not only is consisting of some of the direst Rugby ever played…but the NZ teams are all off the pace…

Sir Roger Hunt, my lad, it’s generally not a good idea to post when you come straight from the pub. Being full of piss and vinegar, does not a good post make. Your creative use if “quotes” is especially entertaining. I implore you to go back over your post, and feel shame at both the blatant shot-in-the-dark inaccuracies, and the general incomprehensible crapness. It’s not anyone else’s fault if you have an inferiority complex to all the college graduates (arseholes, as you say) in here. College of what, though?!!

The game today which I did not see live, although disappointing, should be no surprise with the players we have come to know and love. the league does not lie, and with this biting truth, we should take comfort that we are not under-achieving.

I can’t comment on actual performances because I didn’t see, but it is probably a futile exorcise. I just hope that Rafa is learning as much about the lads as I am.

Peace!

Guys, I didnt see the game against City (midnight game when I have to be up at 4 isnt good)so I wont comment on that but would like to make one comment on Rafa, I am not going to slag him off as he does a good job for us which many others have already mentioned, and there are things that annoy me as well which others have also mentioned.

What I think needs to be done has also been said but I would like to reinforce, What Rafa (or the next Manager as I also have a feeling Rafa is off) needs to do is sell some of the fringe players that are not cutting it and forget about buying more mediocre players and simply buy two world class players. If we dont challenge next year then continue on this path and buy two more, however at the same time keep investing in the youth program as this is where the fringe and squad players will come from. Its simplistic but along the lines of the scum’s plan.

Disappointing to say the last and while it is not beyond the realms of possibility we have to concede that the Mancs need to self destroy for us to get back into the title hunt.

Interesting comments from some and maybe it is me that needs the glasses because I swear we dominated the game, controlled the midfield had 20 attempts at goal, but only scored once. Apart from say 20 minutes during the second half City where not in it. To say we did not create is inaccurate we did not finish, we had more than 5 clear cut chances that on any given day would have gone in, Riera, Kuyt, Benny all could and should of added to the one solitary goal. Our Achilles heal came and bit us in the arse today, pack defensive.

A ball heading towards goal that hits a hand that is extended out from the body whether accidental or not has to be a penalty.

To blame anyone individual or Rafa would be harsh it was a game that we should have won had we taken just one more of all the numerous chances we had from a game we had full control of. That with out our two best midfielders, we lack that extra quality in depth to break these types of games open when we have one or two players out especially a Gerrard type driving force.

Aiyic, you can count yourself lucky, you didn’t miss much.
We clearly missed Gerrard and Alonso. I thought with those two out, Lucas might have a thing or two to prove. As usual, he, in my opinion, is our weakest link.
The team in generally did ok, Bennayoun was our best player, even though i expected him to slam in our second goal, credit got to be given to Given for denying us our second goal. Our central midfield was………lets say, more is expected from them.

I find it hard to be too harsh as I thought in the 1st half played well. when we went in 0-0 at half time my looked at me and said oh oh we’re going to pay for not making our dominance count. Same problem again not putting our chances away, which is very very frustrating. One thing though the mancs get a penalty decision go their way and we don’t – that is a swing of 3 points – they should be 4 points clear not 7. people say we should not be relying on referee’s decisions, why not? It hasn’t done the mancs any harm.

I caused FS to go away?
Hmm….get a life..

Did anyone notice how Bellamy didn’t really celebrate his goal. I have to say kudos mate, never knew you had it in you!

Sir Roger, since I am top of your armchair/arsehole hit-list (I sure that you did not mean that as an honour) maybe you could give a few examples of my posts that have ‘driven’ people away. Especially any FS related ones.

Cheers.

What a guy!
‘I still have confidence we can get the right results against Middlesbrough and Sunderland, though, and that could put things in a different light.’

Benitez has still to reach agreement over a new contract and has hit a new snag with the club’s American owners, Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

After holding out for more control over transfers, the Liverpool manager now wants a clause inserted allowing him to walkaway if Hicks and Gillett sell up and he fails to develop a working relationship with their successors.

League challenge over for another season then. At least we extended the challenge from the usual November to February. We’ve drawn 5 of our last 7 home games. That’s mid table form. We haven’t won more than 3 games in a row at any stage in the league this season. That’s not league winning form. Yes we’re above Chelsea and Arsenal but we are above those teams during a season when they are not challenging for the title either.

You can talk about concentrating on the CL but if any of you have been watching Spanish football over the past 2 months you wouldn’t be confident. Real have won around 10 games in a row and have world class players all over the pitch. I wouldn’t put money on our progression to the quarter finals.

Simply put we don’t have enough top quality players. We can’t break teams down and put the ball in the net when it matters. We have drawn almost half of our home matches. We’ve drawn 10 games out of 28. That’s not good enough.

Too many of the players we’ve signed over the last 2 years just aint good enough to win anything. Their form is up and down like a yo-yo. How many of Rafa’s signings can be relied upon to play well most weeks? Alonso and Torres. Keane was a failure, Babel has been a failure, so has Lucas, Masch doesn’t look like an £18.5m captain of Argentina at the moment. Despite the amount of money spent (less than some other clubs admittedly) our most consistent players are still Carra and Gerrard.

Some managers have the man management skills to get £5m players to perform like £15m players. Maybe Rafa has taken us as far as he can with our budget. He’s rejected 5 contract offers. Maybe its time he moved on and we get someone else in who can get the maximum out of players. And get a scouting network together who can find top class talent before they cost a fortune. Even better would be new, decent owners in the summer.

Well said LondonBarnes, more eloquently put than I could possbly could.

Well LB, although it’s still mathematically possible, none of us want to kid ourselves, and build up false hopes of a “murkel”. This season, more than any in recent memory, was one that i have lived and breathed every kick. I don’t know why exactly, maybe it’s because our record will be equaled, or maybe it’s because it’s Rafa’s fifth season, (the one that was gonna be done-deal by), but I’m feeling really low. I ranted enough for the season during the 0-0 draws period, so all I have left is my misery.

I still haven’t seen the game but I’m probably not far wrong if I guess that there were some sideways passes, and plenty of time being given to Citeh to get back into position. So much for it being positive to be out of the FA Cup, allowing us to “concentrate” on the EPL after our long break. Ah well, at least we know what we have to do! (:-/

Aiyic – We played quite well against Man City but it was the same old story we can’t put our chances away. Torres was the man making the chances when we wanted him to be on the end of the chances.

LB – I know Real have being playing well but in Europe we are no mugs so it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if we came out on top. I know what you mean about Rafa’s man management, I’m sure in Babel there is a world class player in the Tierry Henry mould but he just can’t seem to break out.

LB, I agree that our title tilt is all but over. It needs a miracle now. I’m happy that we’ve pushed it this far, but not surprised that ultimately it was de-railed by a lack of squad depth. Today was just one example (Fulham at Anfield is another) of where our midfield just wasn’t good enough without Alonso and Gerrard in there. Dare I say it, if Rafa had been given his way in the summer, that lack of depth in midfield would have been covered by Barry (assuming we didn’t have to sell Alonso to fund it).

But LB – you can’t crucify Rafa for not getting “£5m players to perform like £15m players”. Yes, some managers are capable of that, but not too many EPL Premiership-winning managers of recent times have done that – they’ve done it with expensively-assembled squads with world-class players all over the pitch. Sure, the likes of Harry Redknapp and Steve Bruce sometimes get “£5m players to perform like £15m players” but they rarely come up against teams that play against us the way teams do when they come to Anfield. We aren’t failing to win games at the moment due to Rafa not getting the maximum from players – that’s not the major reason anyway – it’s because that maximum just isn’t good enough, consistently enough, over 38 games.

Let’s face it – Riera was far from first-choice, not really recognised as world-class, and after a bright start has been quite poor recently. Should we be surprised? Riera is of course just 1 example from any of our attacking players beyond Torres and Gerrard.

Anyone who thinks it is time for Rafa to go, thinks that Rafa has been given sufficient resources to out-compete Manchester United over 38 games. Man U choose their attack from Ronaldo, Rooney, Berbatov and Tevez – combined value over £100m. At the end of the day, goals win matches, which is where we’ve fallen down and Man U have succeeded. Yes, every game is “winnable”, Man City today being yet another example. But when you look over a whole season, we just don’t have enough goals in our team to win the league, so that’s why you see us drawing too many “winnable” matches.

Goal-scorers are expensive and we can’t afford them. If the Keane situation had played out differently, I think our title challenge would have extended a bit further because we’d have had more goals in the team… but Keane didn’t deliver, and internal politics played their part too, so our shortcomings in that area came back to haunt us. Man U don’t have such troubles, they have a plethora of expensive strikers, hence they are on top of the table.

Throw in there that we racked up most of our points this year – as well as some of our most frustrating draws – without Torres in the team, and again you can’t be surprised by our table position, nor blame the gaffer.

I know a lot of you won’t like this but as regards ‘man-management’,I think that David Moyes has it,

Jesus JackHill, where did that come from? And just exactly what are you inferring?? Fnarr Fanrr!!

Sven for Liverpool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!