I am the first! ^^

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My top ten LFC players…

10. Dossena
Dosser has had a stinker season in the first half.. but as the season proceeds, he showed great improvements and managed to chip in some goals as well… Super sub!

9. Aurelio
Has had some bad games… but added some great goals this year into his game (ooh that evil goal against the Chavs. and that wonderful freekick against the Scums).

8. Lucas Leiva
Boo-ed by our own fans, he still managed to play some very good games (MOM inmy opinion), eg: against Arsenal, Newcastle. He might not have the long pass of Alonso, the box to box ability of gerrard, the defense of Monster, but he keeps it simple, strongs of short passes..if he manages to add a few goals to his game, he will be good eventually.

7. Carra
Still ever the rock of LFC Defense, but I think that age is finally catching up on him. made lots of schoolboy errors which resulted into some draws. but made lots of last-ditched tackles.

6. Reina
The best GK in the world for me. Would never dream to replace him in LFC with anyone at the moment.

5. Torres
Same as Gerrard, he missed out most of the season with injuries… and still managed to get to double figures in the goal tally….God, how we missed him!

4. Benny Onion
Dismal showing in the first half,… but has been phenomenal in the second half of the season. Benny has been intrumntal in the absence Gerrard and chipped in some crucial goals as well.

3. Gerrard
Injured for most parts of the season, but still managed to score more than 20 times througout the season for all competitions. This season he improved by not having the disappearing act when we met the other Big four (though he “disappeared” again during the Chelsea game when he was marked by Essien) There is no one in the world thatIwould trade for our Captain.

2. Kuyt
The Ever so hardworking and deadly Dirk, tiredness and fatigue is never a word in his vocabulary. He managed to chip some match winning goals for us this season…and managed to improve his goal tally from last season from the right wing as well

1. Alonso
I hope we are not selling him… I hope we are not selling him….. (I heard that Rafa is STILL going to sell him in the summer…..)

There you go… My top ten…

Lets squash the toons coming Sunday..

(ps: IS Owen playing mind games with us? Hmm…)

I think Gerry’s list pretty much sums up what I think as well. So not much to add from me.

As for my prediction for the Newcastle game, I’m going to go for 3-0 win for the Reds, with Torres scoring around the 30-35 minute mark.

Liverpool to win 3-0.
Kuyt, Torres, Gerrard.

Come on boro!
Do everyone a favour … or you are going down!

See that Hicks is selling to generate revenue to pay off the loans.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/050109dnmetrodeo.3c72afe.html

Liverpool to win 4-0.
Kuyt, Torres, Gerrard.

Come on boro!
Do everyone a favour … or you are going down!

See that Hicks is selling to generate revenue to pay off the loans.

ww.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/050109dnmetrodeo.3c72afe.html

Liverpool to win 5-1 again…owen to get 1 for them first around the 10th minute…but we come roaring back to destroy them with 3 before half time and 2 after the 80th minute…

7-1 Torres to score first in the 12th min.

Liverpool top of the table after the weekend!

Spot on Gerry and although I initially disagreed with one or two choices when I thought back on it I had to agree with your reasoning. Improvements in the second half of the season by Dosena, the pressure Lucas has had to play under, Reira great start to his career, spoilt a bit by his lack of stamina towards the end, some great games by Masch followed by some sloppy performances, Insua’s great break through etc I would go with your choices.

By the way the missing the point FS my friend was only in terms of the Sammie debate, he has been offered an extension and coaching role only for him to want more time to think about it, with the thought that he might get more playing time somewhere else.

Shit forgot Liverpool 5 – 0 (hate these predictions because it could be a total route or a squeaky bum game, all depends if we get the early goal) Gerrad in the 20th minute with Kuyt, Torres 2 and Benny adding to the tally.

4-0
Scoring 4 seems to be our thing at the moment, cant see newcastle scoring(I hope)

Gerrard in the 19th minute for the first

Hard to disagree with your choices of players Gerry but I think I would have had Monster in there somewhere.

Well we are in May and the league title looks to have slipped away from us(but its still possible)
and it seems to be the time to reflect on the seasons performances.

This is (if things go as expected) our third season without silverware but there is a air of optimism that I haven’t seen for a long while and the pre season aspirations of challenging for a title push have been met.

Having been a member of gagonrafastackle.com for the last coupleof seasons I feel that my faith in the man has been justified and the signs of progress have been there for all to see.

If agger signs his new contract we have the team to challenge again next season except for need for cover for Arbeloa.

As for who we will buy this summer, who knows, I believe that Rafa is interested in Silva but will only buy if the price is right, but we will probably end up with a couple of players we were not expecting at all.

I have seen us play games this year when we resembled “the crushing machine” that valencia were under Rafa and there was a spell when we looked unbeatable.I like FS believe that this could be the season when the players start to believe and next season we could have enough faith in ourselves to go on and win it.

Rafa has made mistakes this year, as he does every year and we as supporters see them all, although a lot of us in hindsight but the general trend has been onwards and upwards and some of the players seem so determined that I believe we may have more hunger than any of our rivals at the moment.

The policy of keeping players who work hard for the cause has payed dividends and very rarely do we see lacklustre performances on the pitch.

My optimism for next season is higher than it has been in any season since King Kenny left us managerless and only the boardroom shenaniganns can hurt us now.

Sorry if its sounds as if I have written this season off(I Haven’t) but it seems a big ask at this moment in time and its likely we will rue certain results come the end of the season.

Como on you reds…..2-0 to us with torres getting the first after 60mins and kuyt getting the second

Liverpool 6 – 0 Newcastle

1st goal- 8th minute

I’m re-posting this from the last blog, sorry if you’ve read it already:

The worth of Tevez and how he’d fit in to the team are all irrelevant to me. Yes, he is way over-priced. Yes, there is doubt as to where he’d fit in. But all this pales into insignificance to the dulling of the sheen of any success with an ex-manc in the team.

Aitch, you say “to compare buying Tevez as a player, to replacing rafa with Fungus is … er… sorry just a bit laughable”. You’re not getting my point. I’m not emphasizing about Rafa being replaced. I’m just assuming the position was generally up for grabs, and it turned out Ferguson got the job. It would never happen I know, but to make the point – imagine how you’d feel if it did. And like I say, lets say you loved LFC 50% less. Now signing Tevez would *not be the same* as getting in Ferguson – but would you love Liverpool even 1% less. I could live with it, but it would take *some* of the good out of it if we won a trophy with him in. But I don’t want any diminishing of any success due to the stigma of having to perceivably rely on one of Ferguson’s old players.

So in short; if Ferguson has a stench of Manyoo, Tevez has a whiff. Neither are acceptable to me.

“ok scousers, you won the CL, but needed an an Manchester United cast-off to do it”. I would find this the hardest thing to take. No thanks!

Roarin-Red, you’re not really with me. I’m saying the opposite to, “sign him up…f**k them up”.

I’m just surprised that no-one is saying that they don’t want a manu reject – and are getting into the nitty-gritty of putting a price on his head and pontificating about where/how he’d fit in. And how he’d buddy-buddy with Masch. Jeez! Most LFC fans hate utd with a passion – so how is it anyway acceptable to deal with them.

Especially after the way they treated us on the Heinze inquiry. Now we come sniffing back at their door? No way Jose! Fuck them!

I was secretly glad Ferguson wouldn’t deal with us on Heinze. Ince was *just about* acceptable because he wasn’t a direct signing.

If we only sign one player this summer; it should be Silva. And that Cana guy from Marseille looks like an decent upgrade of Lucas.

2 – 0, Alonso 23 mins

Liverpool 4 – 0 Newcastle
First goal 16th minute.

Liverpool 4 – 0 Newcastle
First goal 16th minute Dirk Kuyt.

4-0 to the Reds, Torres to open the scoring in the 11th minute, with further goals from Kuyt,Gerrard and Torres (again).I would be willing to pay £ 18 mill max for Tevez.

Alonso definately Player of the year.

3-0 Win for Liverpool. Gerrard to score in the 27th minute.

Hi Peeps,

I say 4-0 to liverpool with Torres to score first in 12 minutes.

Scorers Torres x2, Benny and Kuyt.

Forget Boro…

Scum led 1-0 at the riverside halftime….
Sigh…

Sorry aiyic when i said i’m with ya i meant i no know what your saying,not that i’m agreeing with you. As i went on to say i would like him here an i think i’d be ok with it. I know you dont want him here and why.

However when i really think about it i doubt very much he’ll be wearing the liver bird upon his chest next season so until an unlikely bid is made think this one can be put to bed.

The filth leading boro 0-1 at H/T. boro had a stonewaller penalty claim turned down(theres a fucking surprise) 2-1 boro anyone???????? YNWA

liverpool 3 newcastle 2 first goal kuyt 28min

I almost agree with your list Gerry, but I think Aurelio deserves to slot in at 10 ahead of Sami. Aurelio may have had 1 or 2 stinkers, but he had some very good games and some good consistent games too. Despite Insua starting to take over that position now, Aurelio made it his own for most of the season.

Alonso definitely deserves greater recognition (outside of here) for his season. Not being nominated by the PFA really does just show their ignorance.

Liverpool 4-1. First goal to Torres in the 33rd minute. Torres for a hat-trick, Gerrard with the other. Martins to score a header from a set-piece for Toon.

Yep another penalty decision goes the Mancs way at a crucial time – stonewall penalty for handball against Vidic, waved away of course.

Boro don’t have the fight to get out of a relegation scrap – they’ve given up already in this one.

Must say – I haven’t seen much of Wheater in the past, but his defensive display against the Mancs today has been very poor – hope there was no substance to the rumours we were lining him up. If Agger puts pen to paper we should be safe from that though.

Sorry to disagree Skeat but I find it incredible that not only do you have praise for Lucas but in your Top 10! You must see something I don’t.
Damn- ManUre are winning 0-2 now and Middlesborough being denied by Referee Halsey all the time.
Tomorrow’s game, Reds 4-0,Torres 2,Gerrard 2 First goal in 2nd minute.

How on earth did we lose to such an inept team like Boro?

Owen own goal 3rd min! Only kidding, Stevie G 8th min! Final score 4-1 to us!

I no a few were expecting boro to do damage but dont be to dis-heartend. i really expected spurs to do damage and had written this one off before kick off. If we are to pull it outta the bag its gonna be on the last day of the season its the only way we know how.

hopefully city win today and get a bit of momentum coming into next weeks game if they can get something just before arsenal game we can keep dreaming. YNWA

p.s Im not entering the competion i feel there has to be be an upset this wknd and i dont wanna put a skud on us. no that sounds daft but there to much hype about how where gonna kill newcastle , dont fucking like it.

Roaring-red

Just like you I didn’t expect anything from Boro but I was just hoping that they would show some fighting spirit. I’ve pinned my hopes on the Man City and Arsenal games.

After seeing that pathetic effort from Boro, I’m changing my tip. Anyone watching that game from our point of view couldn’t help but be disheartened by such a lacklustre effort from a team who put us away 2-0.

So, I think we’ll gring out a 2-0 tomorrow, first goal in 54th minute from Kuyt. Torres with the sealer.

*grind out a 2-0

Liverpool 3 – 0 Newcastle
1-0, Steven Gerrard, 17th minute
2-0, Fernando Torres
3-0, Fernando Torres

I agree with most of your choices for our top ten players this season Gerry, but I might change a few of them. Xabi Alonso would be my choice as well for our Player of the Year. How often do you hear the “experts” give him the credit he deserves? When a commentator here in Sweden actually said Xabi doesn’t have the vision to find the best passing options and execute them I just couldn’t believe what I was hearing.

I don’t think Carra’s had a very good season. I love the man, but he’s made too many mistakes too be regarded as our best centre half in my opinion. If it wasn’t because of his passion and leadership qualities I would only regard him as our third best option in that position.

Also, I’m not sure about putting Dirk Kuyt ahead of Torres. Dirk is a great player and one of our most important, but despite all the injuries I think the performances we have seen from Torres when he’s been fit still deserves a higher recognition. His goals and majestic performances aside, the very presence of Fernando on the field scares the hell out of any defender in the world.

Boro was pathetic, I hope they get buried by the Magpies next week and get relegated for good.

But before the Magpies go back to winning ways, we must beat them first, to signal our intent that we will not give up, and will keep on breathing down the Scum’s necks until it is mathematically impossible to do.

So unless Lady Luck decides to be a fucking bitch and help these scumbags all the way, we have to keep going.

(Wanted to say something about signalling our intent for next season as well, but I’ll leave that till after everything’s settled and see where we’ll be by then. )

liverpool to win 3-0, first goal torres 11mins.

Things we learned from today’s game.

1. Boro are complete shite.
2. Sly Sports should be renamed MUTV 2
3. Their commentary team of Aunty Gray and Martin Toilet’s admiration of Ryan Giggles sounds suspiciously like man-love.
4. Q. How do you kill a manc fan?
A. Slam the toilet seat down on their head when they are having a drink!

Cheer up lads. It’s May and we’re still challenging, life is good. Bring on the Looney Toons!

4-0 liverpool, stevie grabs the first after 15mins, torres hat-trick follows.

Gerry,

Great news about Agger signing a new contract.

Surely these rumours of Rafa selling Alonso are only that.

Very interesting top 10. Just curious – if Gerrard is the best player in the world, how come he is number 2 ?

Lads i just went for a run to release the tension of that piss result. I think i’ve developed a serious problem. Everyone who got in my way i was ready to pound the head off, i kept getting images of that faggot cunt ronaldo an cokehead holding the prem trophy at the end of the season as these idot man scum fans sing about being on 18.
I no people are saying we gotta challange first but fuck it i cant wait, its driving me demented.AAAGGHHHHHHHHH.
I can take a ribbin from proper fans who i no an like(albeit through gritted teeth) but the ones that just shout their mouths off an call rafa FSW an shit manager i really want them to die of the worst diseases!!!!

WOW that was actually abit therapeutic,think its time for a shower and a big glass of calm down juice!!

Neilob, it’s just down to the fact that he has missed a lot of games this season and Alonso hardly missed any.

Liverpool 4-0
Torres first goal 14 minute
Gerrard,macherano and Torres again on the scoresheet!!!

Alonso has had a great season, I think he needed that kick up the backside Rafa gave him by talk of seeling him in the summer.
I can’t imagine we would be pressing for the Prem
if we had sold him and bought Barry.

3-0 to Liverpool, Stevie G to get the first
after 8 mins.
Kuyt and Torres the other goal scorers.

3-1 my prediction
scorer….Torres to score in the 25th minute

Kuyt to score again..

time of 1st goal- 16 mins
correct score- liverpool 3-0
scorers-kuyt, torres, torres

Dont think it will be a demolition job, as they respect the geordies, just want to get 3 points!

Think the league can still be won, but we will know in the next round of games!

Granto

aiyic, I get your point, I realy do.
And God love you for holding that opinion precious to your heart…. We need a bit more of that in this world.

I’ve been around long enough to have as deep seated a hate for the Scum as any LFC fan… so really, can you not see the difference between an Argentinian who has been in purgatory for 1 season… and Fungus, a 1st degree, pitch-fork wielding, dark arts practicing, harbinger of the Devil?

If we could get Ronaldo on a free transfer my answer would be… No Thanks!
If we could get Rio on a free transfer my answer would be… No fucking Thanks!
If we could get Giggs on a free transfer my answer would be… No Thanks!
If we could get Scholes on a free transfer my answer would be… No Thanks!
If we could get Rooney on a free transfer my answer would be… You must be fuckin jokin (you know, after I’d stopped laughing!)

But if Tevez … and this is the important part of this hypothetical argument (coz the reality is Tevez is not coming to LFC) so it was a hypothetical discussion, but if the Ork wanted to come play for a manager who would appreciate his effort, and play with quality players who aren’t cunts, and play in front of REAL fans… for a reasonable price… say we could get him for say 10 million… then I wouldn’t have a problem with that. (at 30 million, he can fuck off.)

We’d be saving The Ork’s soul from an eternity in hell.

Anyway, its not gonna happen at any price, so there ain’t much point going on about it.

First goal in the 7th minute (Torres)
Score 4 – 0

Tevez would be a great player for us … but then again I wouldn’t want a Utd player with Liverpool

Wow, anyone watching the El Clasico in Spain? I only have text commentary. Messi just scored to make it 3-1 Barca.

I have to say, I pretty much agree with your top 10 Gerry. And I think some of those who didn’t make it into the top 10 have shown flashes of ability that bode well for next season.

My personal opinion is that collective dips in form, particularly from some of our “so-called fringe” players, rather than any perceived lack of class/ability amongst them, (and a bit of luck) is what cost us the 3-4 draws thatw ould have made all the difference this season.

As for tomorrow, I simply can’t bring myself to predict a scoreline. I’m confident… but I’m gonna hold back on being too cocky about the possible scoreline.

If we can get an early goal (first 20 mins) we’ll be fine and build the all-important goal difference buffer again.

If we don’t, things will start to get a bit tense and nervy, and Newcy might sense that and have a few players who can hurt us.

AGGER AGREES NEW REDS DEAL

Liverpool defender Daniel Agger has agreed a four-year extension to his current contract, which will see him remain at Anfield until at least 2014.
The 24-year old, who joined the Reds from Brondby in 2006, has played 76 times and scored 6 goals, including his recent spectacular long range effort against Blackburn Rovers.

Agger joins teammates Steven Gerrard and Dirk Kuyt who have recently committed their long term future to the club.

Manager Rafael Benitez said: “This is extremely good news for Liverpool moving forward and demonstrates our intention to build on the progress we have already made this season.

“Daniel is still young, but with great quality and will be a very important player for us in the years ahead.

“I’m sure there were many other clubs monitoring the situation closely, but throughout our discussions, Daniel made it clear that he wanted to stay at Liverpool and achieve success here.

“I’m delighted we’ve secured his future at Anfield.”

ttp://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N164239090502-1957.htm

great news about agger as he willbe the backbone of the defence with skertel in future, alonso player of the session, need to keep him, dont need barry hes ok but why not use money to buy silva.

Reports of sightings at Mellwood, prior to the Danny Agger contract announcement:

1. A black van with the markings “Scotland Yard Forensic Handwriting Unit”

2. A left-hand drive American Brink’s Security Van, bearing the Logo “RBS”

3. A black Princess Limo “supposedly” carrying an envoy form the Queen.

So there you go F.S., maybe I’m not so mad after all, eh?

Oh by the way, in regards my prophetic qualities, I believe I made the following comment on Friday, regarding Agger:
“It’d be a bit of a boost if he signed tomorrow morning, started against Newcy and scored the first from 30 odd yards, though wouldn’t it?”

So there you go: Agger from 25/30 yards within the first 20 minutes!
Gerry, prep the Amazon voucher for me

4-1 to us with torres scoring in the 21st minute

I haven’t any clue on this one but … the first goal is the important one. A gallant defeat is of no-use to the Geordies so they’ll be full on to the end … 3-1 for me. Torres after 50 minutes… I hope.

3-0 to Liverpool
Gerrard 28′
Torres 53′
Benayoun 77′

Liverpool to win 3-0
Torres 17′
Gerrard 33′
Torres 65′

5-0. Torres to score on the 13th minute.

Great blog gerry, although I would put Kuyt above gerrard. He has been immense and played 90 mins for almost all the games. No objection about alonso topping the chart. He should have got the player of the year award.

Hi all,

Totally Agree regarding Xabi, he has been superb. I think not only does he do the basics well, but he reads the play superbly. He knows when to slow the passing down and when to change the pace.

For the game against the barcodes.

I predict 3-0
Gerrard 22′ minute
Torres
Alonso

Well I knew M/Boro would never win the game against Man U. They looked awful last week and the same this week. In fact I hope they go down because they look middle Championship quality.
.
So what part of Boro would be worth pilferring, none I would suggest. Maybe just maybe Tuncay but thats the only player of quality. Downing is rubbish and he should be left alone. Now their saying 12-15 million for him, hardly ever scores, rarely makes a pass, skills are reasonable. Price ridiculous.
.
On to tonight Benny Onion in the 25 minute, Reds win 2-0. Ps Xabi and Mash have been big influences in our squad this year. Also Kuyts engine, gives it all every game.

Great blog. I like Sami and think he has done well. But would prefer Aurelio to be in the top 10 list with Carra at No 9 rather than so far up the list.

SBB, thanks for the good news on Agger. We definitely need him for our bext few crucial trophy winning years.

Yoo bad Boro did not overcome the Mancs. They are now level with us on goal difference.

So we better win like a 5-1 margin against Newcastle today.

I would love to see 4-0 today to get our goal difference up as Chelsea are now level on points with us again and also it could still – but is looking less and less likely – be very crucial with the Mancs now being level on goal difference with us.We have scored more than the Mancs so if I am right that would come into the reckoning if the points are level at the end of the season.

Would like a nice early goal to settle the nerves so I will say the sixth minute (Gerrard).

Good luck to everyone for the vouchers. My personal recommendation for a book for anyone that has not bought it already would be “43 years with the same bird”. An absolute must for any Liverpool supporter of any age. Couldn’t put it down when I read it and brought back a lot of good and bad memories.

At last, the Agger saga is out of the way, now Rafa can continue to concentrate on consolidating his dynasty and end the reign of the evil usurper that is Alex the Tantrum.

Was reading the live commentary on Soccernet of the El Clasico in Spain last night, where Real Madrid got trashed by Barca 6-2 when I saw the commentator made this untruthful remark:

soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecast?id=252775&league=ESP.1&cc=3888

“I’ve no allegiance either way but I have to say, its nice to see Madrid spanked like this. They’ve been poor this season by their standards, and were crushed by even a lacklustre Liverpool side in the Bernabeu. They’re not a very good team.”

EXCUSE ME!? Lacklustre? Just which fucking game were you watching that night? WE COMPREHENSIVELY DESTROYED REAL MADRID! For fuck’s sake. This guy is in the same calibre as Andy Gray, I tell you. Refusing to acknowledge our achievements, and always finding every chance to have a fucking go at us.

I promptly sent Soccernet a complaint letter:

“I wish to lodge a complaint concerning the conduct of your live commentator on ESPNSoccernet.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecast?id=252775&league=ESP.1&cc=3888

In yesterday’s Real Madrid v Barcelona match, your commentator remarked that:

“I’ve no allegiance either way but I have to say, its nice to see Madrid spanked like this. They’ve been poor this season by their standards, and were crushed by even a lacklustre Liverpool side in the Bernabeu. They’re not a very good team.”

Speaking as a Liverpool supporter, I may be a bit biased, but even so, your commentator could not have been further from the truth when he described Liverpool as “lacklustre” when they comprehensively defeated Real Madrid 4-0.

Anyone who watched that match back then could not have taken away the fact that Liverpool were dominant and in control of the game that night, no matter how fragile Real’s defence was.

And just because Liverpool uncharacteristically had two 4-4 games recently does not instantly make them “lacklustre”.

I suspect your commentator is just finding an excuse just to have a go at Liverpool and I question his subjectivity in making such a remark.

Thank you for taking time to read this complaint and I hope to see a better standard of commentating in the future from ESPNSoccernet.”

I urge you guys to do the same.

Speaking of that match, seeing how insanely dominant Barca are, there’d be no justice if they can’t get past the fucking Chavs. I reckon we were the only team to have a realistic shot at beating Barca, so fuck you Chavski.

Liverpool 2 – 0 Newcastle
1-0, Kuyt 19 minute
2-0, Torres

Monster Masch and Riera would be in my top ten list in place of Kuyt and Arbeloa of your list Gerry.

As for the game tonight-
4-0
Torres; 7th, 49th
Benny Onion; 63rd
Agger 76th

Liverpool to win the premiership on the last match day 2009.

5-0
Deadly Kuyt to score in the 8th minute

man city had a very positive home win yesterday. next week decides it. man city to win win 2-1. if man scum are to drop points it starts next week. THEY WILL. YNWA

P.S poor wee ricky hatton got anialated. I like him but loads of filth supporters love him so anything that makes them unhappy makes me happy. talk about a boxing lesson he didnt no what was happening!!

Super stuff Gerry.

Won`t argue with your list.I`m not able anyway.Just got up after an unmerciful two day binge so i`m suffering big time.

Will go for a 2-0 win i`ll go for 16th minute opener by kuyt.

Is Torres injured?

Hi Gerry,
I have received the voucher, thanks a lot! Sorry I couldn’t confirm this earlier.

My prediction for the game tonight:
LFC 4 Newcastle 0
1st goal: Kuyt 9th minute
Other goals: Gerald hattrick

Torres is injured.

Team lineup (my interpretation):
Reina
Aurelio, Carragher, Agger, Arbeloa
Mascherano, Alonso
Riera, Gerrard, Benayoun,
Kuyt

Subs: Cavalieri, Skrtel, Ngog, Dossena, Babel, Lucas, El Zhar.

Does anybody know why Torres didn’t make the squad?

1-0 to Liverpool. Kuyt scoring the goal before half time.
@5yearplan:
Torres has an ankle injury, so he misses the game.

I rekon 4-1 Gerrard 20 mins with Kuyt & Masch scoring maybe Agger for a
long range goal
YNWA

5 year Hamstring for Torres

dont even joke about things like tha

Torres out with a tight hamstring.

thanks Jack
hopefully just precautionary

Damien Duff at Left back?
Hmm… A Shearer masterpiece?

Benny!!!!!

1-0…… err….no offside….is there?

was probably just off, but good play by Kuyt.

Deadly Dirk!!!!!!!!

bloody man to man marking system

SO…Kuyt… 1 assist, 1 goal….and continuing.. go go go go

welcome back Danny boy!

Kuyt was like superman flying through the air for that goal..superb

Great shots by Alonso and Agger deserved goals – Alonso deserves one for being our player of the season, Agger deserves it to celebrate his contract. Maybe in the 2nd half…

We need to spank them proper now – no slacking off. After the 2nd goal we started lairising a bit, as if it didn’t matter anymore because we were dominating… fuck that, we need to trounce teams when we are on top, as much to send a message as to get the goal difference. Not to mention, if they happen to fluke a goal, I don’t want things to get nervy if Newcastle find some confidence…

If we get the 3rd then I think Gerrard will get taken off early to protect him too. Basically, come on boys, put them to the sword!

shit…. Alonso… 2nd Bar

broken ankle for Alonso? Damn…. 2 near goals and a broken ankle… fuck

Lucas!!! to justify me puttng him in my top 10!

Thats the fourth time we hit the bar…..
wats with the bar at Anfield… LOL

3-0….

+1 goal difference against Scums and Chavs

…and I think this victory made sure that we don’t have to go through any qualifying rounds for next year’s Champ league (all top three teams to qualify automatically to the group stages)

What the fuck was with the 2mins injury time……the subs that fuckin scumbag bastard barton wrecking xabi an we get 2mins……… disgrceful

all very bitter sweet we need alonso for west ham next week. why dont players like barton do those tackles on scum players for fuck sake!!!

Coz…. he was an evertonian….
Thats answered your question I think..

and a fair assessment for Alan Shearer by the Kopites.. “football genius”"you should have stayed on the telly..”…
Brilliant chants

Some honest comments from Alan Shearer. He said Barton deserved to get red carded and the score should have been bigger.

i’m sorry, but 3 strikes and you’re out. barton should be banned for a year at least. the boy won’t learn and he’s a danger (for the wrong reason) every time he steps on the pitch. here’s to hoping xabi’s ok. but i doubt it…

OK, LB, I agree with you now. We should’ve won 7-0 and if Torres had played, I think he would’ve scored the other 4 goals we needed to get there. We were crying out for a clinical finisher out there and he would’ve had an absolute field day against that rabble.

Now let’s all hope like fuck that Alonso isn’t seriously injured. If he is, Gerry you’ll have to take full responsibility for jinxing him with this week’s blog!!

Credit to Lucas scoring his first Premiership goal Skeat,but let’s face it he was the first of many lined up to head it in.
Rafa and all of us were disappointed that the Reds didn’t score more.

Fairly cruisy for the boys, should have had more as Newscastle offered little resistance and their defence were shocking. The woodwork provided better cover.

I hope Alonso is ok, he is crucial. Barton is a clown, then thinking he didnt deserve a booking.

It seems i might have won the comp (post #57). Last time i predicted a result we lost, so im glad it didnt happen this time.

Xabi really is unlucky today, two shots both off the crossbar, not to mention getting tackled like that by Barton. At least Shearer is honest enough to admit that Barton deserves the red.

We hit the crossbar three times already today, reminded me a lot of that Fulham game. Good thing we were already 2-0 up when it happened.

Today’s win was important as we continue to breath down the Scum’s neck, thus meaning they’ll continue to feel uncomfortable before the Mancunian Derby.

FS, you must be a prophet in disguise. It is as you say, next week, May 9th, the match vs West Ham will be very crucial. West Ham will be hoping for a third UEFA Cup spot (betting on Everton winning the FA Cup and transferring that spot down the league to them, of course), so Zola will pull no punches.

Let us hope Xabi’s injury is not as serious as feared, and that Torres will be back as soon as possible.

As promised, here are the comparison for the last 6 Premier League games between Liverpool and Scum as at May 3rd:

Liverpool: DWW??? – 7pts
Scum: WW???? – 6pts

We’ll be playing West Ham first before the Scum take on Man City, Wigan and Arsenal in quick succession.

Remember, this current generation of Scum players have never won more than 11pts in their last 6 league matches for the last 5 years, so let us continue to keep our fingers crossed.

Is that 4 or 5 players sent off for tackling Alonso this season ? I suupose it was only a matter of time before one of them wa serious.

There are going to have to do something about having a longer punishmsnts for reckless 2 footed challenges. At the moment it seems its the same punishment as when a defender tugs back a forward if he’s the last man. Surely they could have a committee to review them and give stiffer punishments like a 6 or 10 game ban and fine them a month’s wages.

According to the official website Rafa says Alonso has only bruising and he hopes that he, Mashy and Nando will all be available for Wet Spam.

Shearer’s comments “I thought the first goal was offside but I don’t think it would have changed the course of the game. I suppose we were lucky to keep it at three. I was asking the referee to play just 30 seconds of injury-time rather than two or three minutes.”

Real class and honest….

Sheesh, where the fuck did everybody go? Suffering from Monday syndrome? I think this is a big sign that a new blog is desperately needed ASAP.

I’ve never been a fan of Shearer, always thought he came across a bit dreary but his laughing along to the Kop chanting “You should have stayed on the telly” showed he can take a joke. Plus his honest assessment of how many more we could have scored and of the THUG, well he’s gone up in my estimation.

There are very strong rumours that Barry is a done deal for about 10M.

Personally I like the guy and he is a rafa-type player but where is he going to fit in, assuming that none of the other midfielders leave?

I predicted 7-0 and it should have been eh? A top form Torres would have ensured that scoreline I reckon. The game went exactly as I imagined it would. This Newcastle team are the worse in the division and I’m predicting they finish rock bottom.

Hopefully we have Torres and Alonso fit for the West Ham game because that one will be tough!

Remember a few months ago when i said for us to win the league other players would have to step up and raise their game to a higher lelvel to help out Gerrard and Torres? Well I think Kuyt, Alonso and Benny have done just that!

Riera was the 1st player to be subbed yesterday and once again was very disappointing (against a schoolboy team ).Does Gerry keep the voucher or is it rolled over to next week?.If Benny scores in the final 3 games, he should be player of the season.Gaining 14 points out of 18 against the big 3 will be difficult to repeat next season.86 points is only 4 short of Arsenal’s tally in 2004 -when they were unbeaten.

Been working really hard the last few days, so haven’t been in. Just popped into read the blog, sorry lads no way I can catch up with all the comments at the moment.

Can’t really disagree much with Gerry’s selection, but I think Riera needs a bit of a pat on the back. Yes. I know the lad hasn’t been consistent. Yes. I know the lad’s form has tailed off as of late. But I think he done extremely well for a first season and I hope he’s with us for some time.

I also think Bannayoun’s been great. I’ve had some arguments over him in the past, with people who just couldn’t see the lads class. I’m happy to see him hitting the form I knew he was capable of. Well in Benny lad.

Got to go, but got to add to what Lurgan said… I hear the Barry deal is done and dusted. Only a rumour so don’t hold me to that. But that’s what some people are insisting.

Later.

FS, others, with Barry possibly coming in do you think there is then credence to the rumours that Lucas could be one making way? I think that exchange would add a lot to our short-term depth, but take away from our longer term depth given the age difference between the two. That said, we could bring in a good young midfielder next year, and/or Jay Spearing could keep making steps in the right direction. Something would definitely need to be done about the fact that we don’t have the youngest midfield in the world though.

I still can’t believe how little acclaim Alonso gets outside of the club (I think he barely gets enough inside the club). Just one small gesture guys, from memory the official LFC website does “Player of the Year” voting on the site every year – it would at least be nice for us all to make sure that Alonso wins that one. I remember reading the interview he had with Balague and Jan Molby, in which he said his position probably wasn’t appreciated as much as it should. I think he deserves a lot more recognition, let’s get him whatever award we can.

Burgerman, I think Riera played well, beat his man numerous times and wipped in some good crosses. To answer your other question, i think i might have won it (guessed 22nd minute and 3-0).

I dont think we should be persuing Barry, unless we get something similar for Lucas (ie Barry for 10mil and sell Lucas for 8m). Purely because we have a bit of cover for LB and CM positions whereas we are lacking in cover for RM, RB and possible a striker.

seems Rafa is turning out to be a bit of a comedian:

Here’s the comment he made after the game:

…It was definitely game over when Liverpool went 2-0 ahead but, lest Sam Allardyce and Sir Alex Ferguson become offended, Benitez tried to convey nothing. “I didn’t want to do any gestures in the dugout just in case,” said the Liverpool boss.

Just read on the LFC Official Website that Hyypia has agreed a 2 year contract with Bayer Leverkusen.

He will be sorely missed next season. Lets hope he returns to LFC as a coach one day once his playing days are over.

Good luck Sami. YNWA

Rafa’s a bit of a case Lurgan. Remember how he used to laugh and joke when he first arrived. Sadly he stopped having a laugh after all the shit he got in the press. Bit of success and he’ll bring it back though, hope he has some right digs at the press an all.

As for Barry, as I said, it’s only rumour. But Hyppia has gone to Leverkusen. Thank you Sammi. Proper LFC player in my book, a great servant to the club. But it looks like Rafa is determined to get the business done fast like we know he wants to.

Andy, think back to when the Alonso transfer was on. Remember the Kop and how they chanted his name throughout games, even when he wasn’t playing. I suppose it must be annoying not to get the due credit, but he knows we love and appreciate him and I reckon that’s what really counts.

Akka if we get 8mil for Lucas then swine flu or not pigs really will be flying! Not a chance mate… I was vehemently against the Barry deal last yr and had been maintaining a similar stance this yr too. Until that is Riera decided he’d done enough by christmas and it was time to start planning the summer hols. Cant agree with FS on this. Pat on the back? Its a boot up his hole he needs. I dont see how playing well for 3mths and then crap for 3mths constitutes doing extremely well. Barry? Couldent be worse.

Digger you never agree with me. But that’s just because you don’t know as much and are a contrary little fucker. Don’t worry mate, you will learn

Have nothing but respect for Sami. What a great player he has been for us. If we do win the league, this year or next, LFC should send him a medal.

Hopefully, we will see him back on the coaching staff at a later stage.

I’m still trying to digest this piece of news. It’s as though Rafa has it all choreographed, first Agger gets the extension, and then Hyypia is allowed to leave.

Sami, we will forever remember your great contribution to the club. It will be absolutely marvelous if he can cap off his Liverpool career with a Premier League trophy at last.

Lurgan mate, obviously I want us to win the league for a million and more reasons, but one of me top ones is seeing the big Finn leave with the medal that will complete his collection. Think of all the cack players to have them and it’s avoided Sam. David fucking May, shittiest centre half to ever strap on boots, League Cup and CL winner’s medals. Sami no league winners medal. Just plain wrong that.

Yeh I know FS, I just want Alonso to be a Happy Xabi! He might still bear grudges for being put up for sale last year. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen him smile! I hope he enjoys playing for us. I think he’s the dogs bollocks.

That news about Sami is actually quite sad, even though it isn’t unexpected. It’s fair enough that there probably wasn’t a playing future for him with us next year, but we’re just so used to having him around that hearing he is leaving is quite sad. I’m sure he’ll get a magnificent send off from the Kop on the last game of the season.

I’m well sick to see him go, but fair play to him. He wanted regular football. I always admire someone who des that over the likes of that shite Intandje and Kewell. As for Xabi, Andy, I read an article where one of his coaches with the Spanish national team told him to stop smiling and grow a beard. He reckoned he looked too soft and needed to look harder. Seems cack. But it also seems to be working so I hope to see him carrying on looking pissed off and unshaved. Or maybe he’s just pissed off because Rafa hid his Mach 3.

I’m sure I will o wise one! If only I could see things like you, things like how being good at your job 50% of the working yr and crap the other 50% constituted an extremely good yr. Sounds like on the balance of things he had a pretty average yr. Wish you were my boss FS and that I knew as much as you….aw shucks…maybe one day I wont be a contrary little fucker…maybe if I wish upon a falling star I can be an ornery one like you!

Sammi was an oustanding centre half in his prime, so strong and commanding in the air. We will miss his influence but if he’s been offered a two year deal at 35, then you can’t blame him for going.

Agger signing his new deal is obviously great news for us, I know most of us are absolutely delighted about that.

The next round of Prem matches will be interesting. We travel to West Ham on the Saturday and the Mancs host Man.City the following day. Both City and West Ham are in with a shout of finishing 7th and securing a place in the “Europa cup” next season.

It certainly won’t be a case of Mark Hugh’s men lying down for Man.U. If City don’t finish 7th Hugh’s could be on his bike!

It doesn’t surprise me that Sami is leaving. He’s got a couple more years in him at a good level, so it would be very hard for him to make the decision to stay for another year as a bit-part player… and then subsequently harder for him to get a 2 year deal somewhere else after that.
I think its sad though, most specifically because I think his experience and influence will be sorely missed int eh dressing room and at Mellwood! (for this reason, I felt we let Didi Hamman go a year too soon, I hope the same isn’t the case with Sami.)

Best of Luck Sami, we’ll miss you. So long and thanks for all the fish!

I’m not so sure you will myself Digger. But yes there is hope. It’s only took me reams of cyber space to make you realise the error of your ways on other matters. So maybe you will one day realise that coming to a huge club like Liverpool, and hitting the ground running while adjusting to everything off the pitch aswell as being rlied upon to fill such a worrying position for the club is just that… a great success. True, it’s a shame the lad is only human and got tired along the way but to say he has been crap for 50% of his LFC career, just in the hope of winning some trivial, and ultimately futile, internet argument seems far more important to you than giving the lad a pat on the back for the great service he has given the club.

Shame that.

Some of my favourite memories of being a kopite where during the 7 long barren years of Shankly’s reign. In them days, I was there week in week out and I started on me away travels. It was a fantastic time to be a Liverpudlian.

The ground was packed for every game, so much so, that you had to start queing at midday to be sure you got in. At times, we were shit on the field, proper proper shite. But we sang our heads off week in week out to support the players and they tried their upmost to repay us for that faith.

They just weren’t good enough at that stage. But we all knew we was in something together. There was a fight to be fought and we all stood our own corner and backed each other to the hilt. It’s called supporting.

There was no glory hunters. There was no head hunters. There was solid loyality from all concerned. And we eventually got our due rewards for that faith.

If that was today, Shankly would have been sacked after 2 seasons. Liverpool could have went the way of other great clubs over the years and none of this would be going on now.

I would have missed some glourious occasions, Wolverhampton in 74 and Romein 77, Istanbul and so on, but sometimes I think an internet free world and a Kop crammed with people who are there because they want to be there, no matter how crap the team is, would be a better alternative.

And to think all this will only get worse when we actually do win the title again is sometimes unbearable.

No theres no winning here Fatty, just a different take on the lads season. And theres no argument here – he’s been muck since christmas! And theres certainly no shame in calling it the way I see it. I think your problem here is that someone disagreed with you and woe betide them! (Adopting voice of one so bombastic as to believe they know more than another) How dare you! The very idea of offering an opinion different than mine!! ……yeah shame on me, indeed.

Digger you do it each and every time. But you’re right, there’s no argument. I find it quite funny. You shoot yourself in the foot often enough for me not to bother… crap since Christmas – that’s one of your better ones. But here, read this up until the Ferguson bit…
ttp://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrischarles/2009/03/review_of_the_week_22.html

Maybe you will beging to undestand why they say… faith can move mountains

FS, I know you have supported LFC from afar before, eg when you were spending time in the US, so you know how difficult it can be from afar – back in your day, just the odd game on the telly or wireless, or results in the newspaper. Being all the way down in Australia, it was similar for me in my younger days – when I watched as a kid in the 80′s, all we got were the odd “big” games like the FA Cup final, which my parents let me stay up late to watch. It’s amazing but I still remember the 86 FA Cup Final, when I was only 6 years old, seeing Rushie score twice in the 2nd half. Other than that I just had to rely on stories from my grandad, who was born and bred in Birkenhead and moved our family out here when my mum was only little.

These days it’s of course much easier for someone like me. We’ve got the internet and cable TV to bring it all right to my living room. Without those two things, it would have been very hard for someone like me to keep the passion for a team I hardly ever saw. I’d of course genuinely have loved to grow up with a chance to go to Anfield every week, or even any week. I still tell people now – quite seriously – that if I could get my hands on a season ticket, I would seriously consider moving myself to Liverpool (or near enough).

I completely understand the way you see things, though having not experienced the same thing I guess I’m limited and can’t say I feel what you feel – ie, I can’t really have nostalgia coz I’m a younger fan who didn’t grow up on the Kop.

But, I do want to inherit your lessons about what it means to support my team. When I was younger I had my granddad, a lifelong LFC fan and proper scouser moved Down Under, but sadly he died when I was a teenager. Without the internet, I wouldn’t be able to hear from people like you, which I thoroughly enjoy and pay great attention to (as do others).

Not arguing with you by the way, just giving my own story so you can see things from another point of view. I guess I’m saying you gotta take the good with the bad, and when it comes to something like the internet, I still think the good (helping international supporters stay in touch) far outweighs the bad (the ease it brings at talking crap to a big audience).

Andy mate, I have came in this blog for years because I enjoy seeing the views of lads from all over the world. I have often told tales of how I used to wear my “Supporters all over the world” scarf and very nearly got that crest tattoed on me. Glad I never now. That saying and emblem becoming just another thing the mancs stole off us.

I have never been one of them Scousers who believe Liverpool FC belongs to nobody but Scousers. Even in this day and age of Spanish managers and players from all over the world, there are some that still believe that.

But that wasn’t my point. Even in Shankly’s barren years there was lads that came from outside of Liverpool. I know lads from Norway who come every week and I’ve known them since the 80′s…. That’s support.

So, like I said that wasn’t me point. My point was… support. You don’t have to be Scouse to know how to do it and know that it actually works.

Riera cost 6 million quid. He came in with everyone moaning we should have spent 30 million quid to fill that spot, despite the fact we never had tuppence. Man U spent 30 million. They got Berbatov. Ask me who I think has had the better season and who I’d rather have in our team/squad… give me Our Albert everytime.

The lad has proven what he can do. He’s a class act. He’s done more than enough for me to thank him. He also got tired and lost a bit of form. But like they say form is temporary class is permanent. So should our support be.

No harm in saying the lad hasn’t been at his best recently, but to slag him isn’t the Liverpool way… at least not the way I was taught in the old days.

Can’t stand this fella, and I’ve posted it a few times before. But if you haven’t seen it Andy, for a trip down memory lane it’s well worth a look…
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy9rw5G_zUA

Dunno what your on about in 131 Fatty. Dont recall ever shooting myself in the foot and dont know what faith and mountains has to do with us disagreeing on Rieras season. This is a common practice of yours; someone disagrees with a point you’ve made and you go off on these eratic tangents and spiels about ‘support’ and ‘faith’, anything that makes your point more palatable and credible. Moving the goalposts I believe is what you call it no? You do it each and everytime and it is funny!

And we did have tuppence. 27mil of it. But we spent it on Keane and Dossena. Lets hope we’re a little wiser this summer eh? As for the Berbatov example, goalposts and moving and all that… I dont care what the manc players are doing. All I care about are ours and my point remains the same, Riera has been poor, desperately poor since christmas, nigh on invisible at times. A pat on the back? A wake up call more like. He’s tired you say? Then fucken sit him! No room for passengers in a title chasing team mate

Ahh I understand now Digger. That is it… you just don’t understand.

I think we can sum up Riera’s season as “O.K”, not brilliant but not terrible either. I would agree that he seems to have gone off the boil in the second half of the season, but let’s look at the season as a whole.

He started well, and then seemed to flit in and out of his best form, next season we will be able to make a more rounded judgement.

Alot of players coming from different Leauges need a good season to setttle in, some don’t need that long. It just depends on the player.

But it also depends on if the manager is going to give him the chance and whether the player fits in to the club, how he gets on with his team mates.

I think that in Riera’s case, he has done enough to at least justify another season, you have to give him that surely!

Riera is not going to set the place alight. His real strength is that he offers the team genuine balance. I think he will be better next season, and make more of an impact for more of the season.

Riiiiiight Fatty, thats it yeah, I dont understand. Good counterpoint, who could argue with that? Lol!

Do we agree that Parry, Hicks and Gillette conspired to use the majority of our 2008 transfer kitty on Keane?

I think we do.

That left Rafa having to perform damage limitation. Firstly he set about getting some coverage for our woefully undermanned right back position. He done this by finding us an international right full bac – Degan on a free. But he also had to bring in cover for the leaving JAR. He done this by finding us an international class left back/mid fielder – Dosenna. He was bought in July for 7 million quid. The 2 players were also meant to give us more attacking possibilities from the flanks as we couldn’t afford to go out and buy top class wingers.

That still left Rafa the problem of finding someone to provide service to our loan forward from the flanks. But we all know what Rafa is like and he also demands our flank men help out the defense. With no money left in the coffers he found us Riera for 6 million quid.

The lad came here and settled into a troubled club and a troubled position. And gave very good service in both his attacking and defending duties. And for that sort of money he was an absolute revelation. I remember people waxing on about him in this very blog. But how fickle are football fans today? Well, fickle enough to not really understand loyalty and the fact that faith, belief and support can bring incredible results. In fact, it seems some think these things are some sort of character flaw.

The reason I mentioned Berbatov and Riera having quite comparable seasons goes back to the original blog and the point made about Giggs and Hyppia.
The point I made about a single flag helping Rafa determine to stay was to show what loyalty and support can achieve.
The point I made about the Kop through the barren years was to show what patientce can bring.

But fuck that malarkey, what about that Pepe Reina. He’s let a lot of goals go in lately. Should we get a new goalie or should I just stop wasting me time. Probably the later is the more credible and palatable.

Digger you don’t understand

Oh well, while Digger scrambles around for something to counter that I am going to open a can of lager and lay in the bath listening to Stan Collymoore…. ”

Dunno what your on about in 131 Fatty. Dont recall ever shooting myself in the foot and dont know what faith and mountains has to do with us disagreeing on Rieras season. This is a common practice of yours; someone disagrees with a point you’ve made and you go off on these eratic tangents and spiels about ’support’ and ‘faith’, anything that makes your point more palatable and credible. Moving the goalposts I believe is what you call it no? You do it each and everytime and it is funny!”

…there’s a message in there if you can decipher it Digger.

So, Digger, based on your ‘analysis’ you would have got rid of Finnan after his 1st season at Anfield. If Riera was bad in his first season then Finnan was atrocious.

Taking into account that Finnan had many years of EPL experience, spoke the language, was accustomed to the English culture, surely you must admit that Riera should be given another year?

BTW, he played well yesterday, IMHO.

Are you trying to tell me Fatty that Parry, Hicks and Gillette conspired to spend 50% of our budget on a player Rafa didient want?! A player Rafa dident identify as a target?! Ffs man no manager with a grain of self respect would have tolerated that. He would have been gone by the time Keane had put the pen down. So dont try and tell me Rafa wasnt compliant or complicit in last summers transfer debacle big fella and spare me the usual Rafa beatification and the questioning of my loyalty, really trite by now

I should really do a refresh before posting.

No I think Digger should refresh his memory before posting.

Or are you telling me you don’t know what happened last summer, even after a full season of it being discussed?

Well as I said, you don’t understand. So on to more important things… Hope to fuck Hull get beat by Villa tonight. We need them to be desperate for points when facing the mancs.

And for some people here’s a valid point… Out and out wingers are a thing of the past really. There are very few who are not expected to track back and defend. It’s even expected of Ronaldo and Messi. But being such gifted players, they do get away with not performing them duties. Where as Our Albert, is forgiven very little.

When did making a scapegoat out of a player become a required trait in football fans.

Anyway, for those without a selective and very short memory…. Riera reminds me of Dugarry. Obviously they aren’t carbon copies, but they are very similar in many ways, styles of play, trickery, foot eye co-ordination, pace, passing, crossing, gait – except Dugarry done fuck all when it came to helping out his defence. Seems it didn’t do that World Cup winners career any harm. Mind you, he was given time to prove what he could do, when it would have been so much easier to fuck him off for the likes of Gennola.

Come on The Tigers. I’ll pop back in when I’ve painted the kitchen, done the garden and polished the car. Maybe you can think of something more relevant by then Dig!

Your dead right Fatty, I dont understand a babbling brook of bullshit, who would?! And Lurgan, who mentioned anything about getting rid of Finnan or Riera or anyone else? Sometimes I feel like I’m talking to 4yr olds in here! The point was whether Riera had done ‘extremely well’ or not. Not whether we should get rid of him or what my analysis of Finnans first season was. Follow the conversation theres a good lad.
No scrambling here Fatty, just rational debate on the point at hand. No meandering tangental points on old hackneyed arguments always so predictably brought up when someone disagrees with your point or makes a valid counter one. Its always the same big guy, the old questioning of ‘loyalty’ and ‘faith’, the undermining of ones fanhood or redness so to speak to further the babbling brook of bullshit. So be it. Matters little to me, I can see it for what it is. But apparently I dont understand! That one really is a classic! Another recurring theme perhaps along with faith and loyalty?! And dont forget scapegoating! Now that we cant point out a player has had a bad game, week, month, etc. No, telling the truth is now a dirty thing called scapegoating and we cant have that now can we? Yes, lets all live in a world filled with buttercups and daisies and bubblegum, a world where Rafa really dident have anything to do with the signing of Robbie Keane. Yes, those big bad guys behind the scenes sanctioned that deal without Rafas knowledge. (adopts voice used when patting a dog) Oh yes they did, those big bad guys, whose a good boy eh? Whose a good fella? Yes you are, yes you are Rafa!
Yeah, I think that world is called ‘Fatty Land’, only prerequisite for entry? Dont disagree with Fatty!! For I of (apparent) puny knowledge do not, could not understand!! Actually, that sounds like a fun place lol!

So Digger, a direct question.

Based on his performances to date, Do you think that Riera should be sold or not?

I can’t believe how long it took to come up with that last lot of juvenille drivel. And such ignorance doesn’t even merit a reply. Digger you are indeed showing yourself to be beyond redemption. But then, as you are someone who has never even been to Anfield, I can take it for what it is… opf no consequence whatsoever.

But for more knowledgable people…

I know I go on about the past. I know I go on about loyalty and support. I know I pull people up when I think they aren’t acting how an LFC should act.

I will continue to do that. Loyalty, faith and support aren’t character flaws. The new breed of football fan has a lot to learn from the past – history and tradition are not sentimental shite.

Having said that, my opinion is only that – my opinion, and it’s no more viable than any one elses. Well, that’s not quite true.

But I also admit there’s times when my own loyalty gets in the way of my judgement. For instance, I would have given Ged more time. But having said that, I’ve also said in here many times… there is no place for sentiment in football. If you want to succeed you have to keep upgrading. And sometimes that means you have to be ruthless.

Aitch said it earlier and has said it on other occasions – maybe Didi was let go of a season too early. I like the sentiment but don’t agree. It’s the same with Sami, sad as it is. Paisley said it himself, when a player leaves LFC it doesn’t mean his football career is over, it just is with LFC.

That’s what we used to do all the time. We used to let great players go at just the right time. Shankly knew he let his first great team go on too long. That’s why we had trophyless years. It was hard for Bill to let fellas like Ron Yeates, Thommo, St John and Hunt go. It was hard for me to watch them go. But like I’ve said before, I learnt… Shankly – Paisley. Keegan – Dalglish. It’s what great succesful teams do.

But this stuff nowadays…. well, like Lurgan said earlier, Finnan would have never made it. Bennayoun would have been well up the road. Kuyt, and even Carra would have been fuck knows where.

So, yes. Once someone’s time is up – tatty bye and thank you for the service. But to just keep dismissing people after not even a full season is beyond my comprehension.

Maybe it’s me that doesn’t understand….
My arse.
Buy some patientce. Grow a loyalty bone. Read some club history. Take the cotton wool out of your ears and shove it in your mouth. Do whatever it takes but for fucks sake realise… you are seeing a new dawn here, not a false one. there will be mistakes made. It won’t happen overnight. Not all players will become legends. But we are seeing the turning of the tide. I for one will enjoy that for what it is instead of scapegoating certain players.

Digger grow up. Stop talking like a yank teenager. You are supposed to be Irish. And stop reading all my posts with a micro scope, finding the one part you’d like to attack, the part you think is the weakest and then go for it in the hope of showing me up. You are making a fool of yourself.

Not a shabby selection Gerry, but in terms of consistency, I’d have to have Arbeloa a couple of notches up. Apart from one or two dumb ones (specially Arsenal), he’s pretty much taken up the “ever reliable Steve Finnan” mould (who was also entitled to the occasional clanger).

He’s made absolutely no noise (OK, no competition this year due to our hospital casualty), but he really has taken on a pretty reliable role and is not scared to mix it up a bit too.

“Stop talking like a yank teenager.”

Got it in one FS, but I did not have the balls to say it!

Although, somehow, I think this may not be the end of this discussion. Thank fuck I am going to bed now.

Will see the debris in the morning. Ciao.

Night Lurgan lad. I thought Silly Season didn’t start for a few weeks yet, but sadly it seems we don’t have to wait for the press. It’s upon us in the blog already.

The names will start flying in the press soon – both in and out. I’ve been given some names by some lads, lads in the know. I don’t even mention them in here as – no matter how much info they have – it’s still only speculation.

Riera, Dosenna, Lucas, Babel – who knows, they could all well go. I’d like to see them all being given at least another season. But what I’d like and what Rafa wants is 2 completely different things.

I’ll just keep supporting those who are here, and if they try I will do that even when form deserts them. Then I’ll thank them when they leave and welcome whoever replaces them. It’s called the Liverpool Way.

FS et al, it seems that Barry is on his way to Anfield.

To tell you the truth I do not know where he will fit in. From watching him closely tonight he seems to do what Alonso does, but just not as well or elegantly.

I just hope one and one does not equal two in this case.

Defo, bedtime now!

BTW, I just posted that since you said Lucas ‘could’ be on his way out.

A demain.

Digger,

Just remembered a comment I heard recently that we can all learn from.

‘Next time you hear or read something that annoys you, instead of picking up a microscope, pick up a mirror’.

Here’s a rough translation of what Hyppia said about leaving…
ttp://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/futis/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/futis/2009/05/871538

Always sad to see the stalwarts go. But I admire any player that does it for the right reason, and it looks like Sam might return one day.

I don’t know if Lucas is on the way out Lugan mate. It’s just one of the names you are bound to see bandied about.

As for barry, a mate of mine told me yesterday it was a done and dusted deal. He’s never usually wrong when he insists something is for defo. And fuck it, here’s two of the names being bandied about… Pranjic and Negredo.

Anyway, I’m off meself now, but I don’t want to leave it on a bad footing and I don’t want to go on either. So, I’ll just say Digger… pack it in.

It’s not clever and you’re doing yourself no favours.

Night night

Digger: No one is saying you can’t disgaree but it’s the way you do it. If you spoke to someone in person like you write on the net unless you are some sort of Rambo/Arnie type you would get yourself knocked right out. It’s called respect. Maybe I’m a dinasaur but you don’t talk to people and certainly not older people like that. Riera in truth had a good start to his LFC career his form has tailed off but to say he’s been crap for the last 3 months well I’m sorry but that’s ridiculous. He’s had a few poor games and some average ones but he offers balance and width. He has tricky feet, good close control, can beat a man with skill, lacking in my opinion pace. It’s his first season, I know you said he should be used to the prem because he played for Man City a couple of years ago, but he hardly played any games and he was a lot younger. The prem is a physically demanding league as well as skillful. I’ve just had an argument with some Spanish friends of mine who reckon Barca will murder the chav’s, while I hope they do I said don’t confuse the English prem with the Spanish league. The chav’s imho could quite easily beat barca. The point? Barca are a good, possibly a great team but skill is not enough, strength is also required something some foreigners don’t always realise until they come to the EPL, it’s a different beast. Riera will be much better next season as he will get a pre-season under his belt and will know what he is up against.

FS: Absolutley spot on about support and loyalty. But this is a new thing. The same as buy now pay later. Back in the days(to coin a new generation phrase) you had to work for what you wanted, credit didn’t exist. If you wanted a new bed etc you couldn’t go and buy it on tick you had to save. FS’s point is you can’t expect instant success, patience is needed and in the meantime support, faith and loyalty, dirty words nowadays.

Well Lurgan its good to see someone is keeping sycophancy alive and well at Kopblog! Dont worry mate, that original thought will come along someday.
Ignorant Fatty? Nah mate, you cast that stone in post 119 when you called me a ‘little fucker’. People in glass houses big fella….. But I laughed that one off as I will this one.
As for the rest of your post, there you go again. As I said earlier its always the same old bullshit thrown out again; ‘as you are someone who has never been to Anfield it is of no consequence’. The arrogance inherent in this statement is staggering. Its always the same holier than thou, higher moral ground bullshit when someone disagrees with you FS. This dismissive condescension that permeates your posts when you read something you dont like or percieve as a slight is a nasty feature of your writing. He’s never been to Anfield, sniff, snort, who does he think he is disagreeing with me? His opinion is of no consequence. Its bullshit Fatty and its sickening. And your posts drip of it, that your opinion is somehow of greater value and more valid than those that disagree with you; ‘You’re a contrary little fucker’, ‘Your ignorance dosent merit a response’, ‘Digger you never agree with me but thats because you dont know as much’ Wtf!? These are just from today Fatty, just a few choice tidbits that highlight your arrogant omniscient attitude towards those who dare have a thought contrary to yours.
Making a fool of myself? I think not big fella. Just pointing out a few inconvenient truths. For those of us who have never had the privelidge of watching a game at Anfield, I think I can say with a fair degree of confidence that our opinion is most certainly of consequence.
And what the fuck is that ‘stop talking like a yank teenager’ bullshit that Lurgan was so impressed with about?! Is this another out of left field irrelevant tangent?! Cos I’ve read back through my post in the interest of fairness and I cant uncover one piece of American teen slang! But there ya go, whatever works for ya and keeps Lurgan entertained! Oh and I’m Irish alright Fatty despite your veiled questioning of it. But sure I shouldent be surprised, you question my loyalty to my club every chance you get, why wouldent you take a thinly veiled swipe at whether I know what nationality I’m ‘supposed’ to be? I’m very cogniscent of my nationality Fatty and the fact that your questioning it, even though there was nothing in my previous post to bring it into question, is just another example of your arrogant dismissiveness.
For the record I dont read your posts with a microscope looking for something to show you up (paranoia is a curse), I read your posts the same way I read everyone elses. If I happen to have a differing opinion I’ll put it down, be it with Andy, Keith, Hdye, 5yr, Aitch whoever. And we go at it and thrash it out. They dont however come back in and call me a ‘little fucker’ or attempt to tell me they know more than me or state with more than a hint of sracastic condescension that ‘you dont understand’. No Fatty, we have a good go round of it and then ‘agree to differ’. We dont take the extremely endearingly humble position of ‘I know more than you’. Nice.
Fatty, I’m well grown up mate, and I’m no fool, least of all in here.

Kenny all I said was I disagreed and backed it up with the none too scientific evidence that he has been muck since Christmas! I think if you read back down through the posts that the big fella was less than hospitable. And so here we are now, 8hrs later, no closer to agreement and a fair amount of muck thrown in between! Look Kenny, if someone cant handle me saying ‘he’s been crap since Christmas’, then how would you have me put it? ‘His form has been less than desirable’?! C’mon Ken, this is not a sewing circle here mate!
And Fatty I just saw your post in 156 as I saw Kenny’s and I’m not in the business of doing myself favours in here mate, just reading the blog, the lads posts and having me own 5 cents (ooops! hope that wasnt too American!) so, absolutely, consider the footing to be good and we’ll pack it in.
Good night and good luck.

I rest my case

Digger & FS you are 2 sides of the same coin you’ll never be on the same
side but its still the same coin. Your both products of your own environment .
As far as abuse goes over the last year ive read a lot of comments in here
that would offend 1 or 2 million people but most of it is mild compared to most
internet sites.( You tube comments are the worst )
Like Kenny said you’d probably get knocked out and where i come from if you are like Rambo then you’d end up another lump or bump on the Moors. Another problem is its easy to forget respect as you dont look them in the eye whilst typing 
So lets drop the name calling and get back to footy.
PS Riera worth the money paid had a decent season IMO
Sad that Sammi is leaving but good luck to him.
PPS 5 cents worth it used to be tuppence but thats inflation for you,
As for lack of patience and want it now mentality ie credit, well look where thats
got us, we got G&H and a credit crunch.
YNWA

Lads give it all you have because passion bleeds through this club. After scrolling numerous hours and years through LFC sites I found this one, with it’s even handed jovial banter.
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However just like RAWK it’s getting to a point where we have levels of supporter. No wonder we haven’t won the league for years, the bickering and infighting between LFC fans is plain to see.
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For the record I support the RED shirt and I don’t give a fuck who’s in it, as long as they play like I dreamt I would if given the honour.
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If that makes me a good fan or a bad fan, I’m still a fan. I love seeing our lads running out onto the park but if they give half baked efforts then, I don’t have to like or accept it.
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I don’t want to say much about Riera because I actually think he’s quite a decent aquisition and appears quite sporting and supportive. So with the record I have of liking players he’s probably already on sale. For the newer lads every player I like gets sold.
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We need to support our fans as much as our team, as we all know we’re the number 12 on the LFC team sheet. As they say if your not part of the solution, your part of the problem. Lets educate not berate.
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And lastly I fucking love Alonso, so I guess he’s gone now too.

Some forums provide an ignore function that allows users to block out any nonsensical drivel that makes their blood boil.

I could certainly use with that function here, keeps me saner that way.

FS back to my last post, I know your main point was about support, I wasn’t trying to counter that. I was just giving my own little story, which is different to your’s. Given your history I know you respect that though.

Digger, I know you’re well within your rights to battle it out with Fatty but you’re starting to ramble on the personal stuff mate. I know Fatty “started it” by calling you a little fucker etc, but just deal with it without all the personal rambling. Fatty at least combines his personal little quips with a lot of other stuff to back up his point. And mate you DO keep missing his point – you seem so intent on “sticking to your guns” that you come across like a barking dog. I mean no offense and I don’t mean to “gang up” on you, but that’s just the way you come across sometimes, like someone who is making a lot of noise without thinking.

I’ll make my point this way. I do not believe we are in here to be like pundits, or commentators, who just purely “say it as they see it” with brutal honesty and not consider the consequences. Yes, I know that is our RIGHT, and I’m not saying to be dishonest. I’m just saying have a think about the difference between a pundit and a supporter. A pundit might think Riera is shit, and so say Riera is shit. A supporter might think Riera is shit, but decide to keep it for himself and wait to see how he does next year. That’s just a small example. I’m not saying let’s make this a love-in where we are only allowed to talk about positive things. I’m just saying, let’s not all be pundits, let’s be supporters.

Manchester United have made an offer of about €70m (£62.5m) for the Bayern Munich midfielder Franck Ribéry as they close in on a deal that would shatter the world transfer record.

Sources in Munich confirmed the bid has been received for the France international, who has made his desire to leave Germany known in the past few weeks. United scouts have repeatedly watched the 26-year-old in recent Bundesliga matches and sounded out his friends and entourage in Munich.

United’s remarkable offer, which comfortably eclipses the record £44m paid by Real Madrid for Zinedine Zidane in 2001, is contingent on the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Madrid this summer but the approach to Bayern has been firm enough to suggest that the Portuguese’s departure is a near certainty. Although Bayern are understood to have turned down United’s offer, it is considered the first serious move in a negotiation that will eventually bring the winger to Old Trafford.

Ribéry, who earns €8m a year at the Allianz Arena, the equivalent of £134,000 a week, is set to replace Ronaldo as United’s highest-paid player. Due to the unfavourable exchange rate and taxation levels in Britain, the Champions League holders, who take on Arsenal in the semi-final second leg at the Emirates Stadium tonight, will have to spend closer to £145,000 a week to match his net wages at Bayern. Money, however, is not the determining factor for Ribéry. The former Marseille player, who moved to Munich in 2007 for €25m plus add-ons and is contracted to Bayern until 2011, has repeatedly turned down offers to renegotiate a contract extension on improved terms.

Finishing only 16th in the running for the 2008 Ballon D’Or after a season in which he had inspired Bayern to a domestic double – “I am disappointed, I should have deserved better,” he said – and his club’s 5-1 aggregate defeat by Barcelona in the quarter-finals of this year’s Champions League seem to have convinced him that a move to a bigger club has become necessary.

Bayern’s general manager, Uli Hoeness, who has ruled out a sale of Ribéry throughout the season, softened his stance over the weekend. He confirmed Bayern were already eyeing up Werder Bremen’s Brazilian midfielder Diego, 24, as a possible replacement “in case Ribéry were to go”.

Manchester City, who have included the Frenchman on a short-list of transfer targets, have been hampered by their lack of Champions League football next season and are not seriously in the running.

Barcelona recently came close to an agreement with Ribéry but negotiations halted when news of their interest was leaked to the French press by sources close to the player last week. Although Barcelona have not officially pulled out, United are now best placed to entice Ribéry abroad. Relations between Bayern and United are cordial despite displeasure at Sir Alex Ferguson’s aggressive pursuit of Owen Hargreaves in the summer of 2006. The English international moved to Old Trafford for £17m in July 2007.

It is understood that Bayern have rejected Ferguson’s first offer but, with the Germans no longer insisting on a prohibitive €150m valuation – “We would perhaps let him go for that,” Hoeness was quoted as saying in January – negotiations between the clubs are sufficiently advanced to suggest an agreement can be reached before the player goes on holiday in June.

In an interview with the French sports paper L’Equipe last week Ribéry indicated that he would leave Bayern if his team did not qualify for next season’s Champions League: “In those circumstances it would indeed be very difficult to stay, that’s obvious… That’s why the club has to finish at least second.” Bayern are currently second in the league, three points off the leaders VfL Wolfsburg. Only Germany’s top two teams are guaranteed places in the Champions League.

Yeah…while we are busy discussing whether or not Barry should come or Alonso should leave.. The Scum is out to smash the world record in player transfer…

…and Sami to Bayer leverkusen on a two year deal..

Good luck Sami… and Thanks for everything.

Liverpool defender Sami Hyypia will part company with the club at the end of this season, ten years after being signed by Gerard Houllier.

The 35-year-old Finnish international has been an integral part of both Houllier and successor Rafa Benitez success over the years.

Hyypia has agreed terms on a two-year deal with Bundesliga side Bayer Leverkusen, after passing a medical on Monday morning.

A statement on Liverpool official web site said, “Hyypia has earned legendary status at Anfield for the part he has played in the club’s many successes over the past decade.

“He will leave Merseyside with the best wishes of every Liverpool supporter.”

I’m sorry to hear that Sammi is going to be leaving in the Summer.
What a great palyer for the club he has been.
I wish him all the best in Germany.
Let’s hope he comes back at some point, on the coaching staff.

I’m not sure what all the arguments are between Digger and FS.
So no comments from me..

Is Alonso such a despicable chap that everyone just want to put him down? I mean, how many players has he got sent off this year..

Was selling Jack Hobbs for a mere 400 k a mistake?.Why not give him a season in the Championship, to see if he could improve further?.If Barry and Leto are @ Anfield next season,how will Rafa accommodate so many left sided players?.Considering all the goals he scored, Hyypia was a better all round centre half than Lawro and Hansen.

No way was Hyppia better than Hansen and Lawrenson, you contrary little fucker. Joking aside, they was the backbone of the best Liverpool teams I have ever seen. They were the best CB pairing I have ever seen. And they were the most balanced partnership I have ever seen.

When asked about the favourite all time LFC player or team, most people rightly got for Dalglsih and one of the great sides he played in. What often gets over looked is them teams/players were able to look so good because they was built on the rock of Hansen and Lawrenson. They really were a class above any other pair of CB’s I have ever seen.

As for Sami, hats off to him. He was offered a years extension on his contract and then a coaching role to follow. He chose to leave so he could play out his career. I have nothing but respect for that and the man himself. He’s been a tremendous servant to the club and a model pro.

Funny Gerry should start this blog the way he did. And he’s right, our players will never get the media kissing their arses the way the mancs do, but Sami would be every bit as entitled as Giggs to being named Player of the year.

Good lad, the big big Finn. He’s just give £23,000 to a children’s hospital in Liverpool as they were that much short in a fund to pay for some equipment for poorly kids. Sami’s own lad was born in that hospital. So, don’t be surprised to see the big lad back in a coaching role when he hangs his boots up.

Good news that Hull got beat last night but also put up a proper fight for the points. That’s what we need to hear. No let’s hope it’s a bruising knackering encounter tonight, especially for the mancs.

I also think a lot will hinge on Arsenal v Chelsea. If Arsenal can win that one, it will put them in a position where they can pip the Chavs to 3rd spot by, yes…. beating the mancs.

And where there’s life there’s hope.
My pal Digger understands that.

PS… No offence Skeat lad, but what is the point in going on about the mancs transfers? Seeing the headlines in the papers is bad enough. Listening to the shite spoutted about them on the radio and telly is even worse. There’s no way I will read whole newspaper reports on them even in the papers, nvermind inside an LFC fans site. I won’t be watching them tonight on telly. And, to qoute the great man himself, if they were playing in my garden I would shut the curtains.

We all know they are richer than us. We all know as a team and a squad they are the finished article and can do this sort of thing – make one or two purchases at hugely inflated prices to make sure the team stays where it is. It makes no difference to us as a club, team or squad.

But in a way, it does to me personally. I like the fact that we can’t compete with them in lots of areas – especially finances. Being the underdog will only make over taking them all the sweeter.

Wow
I stepped out for a couple of days and only just got into read the comments, Digger its not so much that your comments are wrong or right but they seem so black and white all the time.

We all support the same team, its just the way we do it that seems to differ, however my main complaint about your type of thinking is that it never seems to point to the long term view.

Riera has been crap for half the season is such a sweeping statement that it is bound to get peoples backs up, partly because its just not true, and partly because it reeks of the same sort of attitude that we had before with Deadly Dirk.

There is a certain mentality amongst some football supporters that players should arrive, set the world alight or fuck off to where they came from.

Ronaldo was rubbish for the Mancs for quite some time and I remember Drogba first season for Chelsea but nobody would consider them bad buys or unworthy of a second season. Now I know this is not what you said and I am putting words into your mouth to a certain extent but your willingness to attack players on little evidence is a consistent theme of your posts.

Nobody is saying that you should support players unconditionally but it is surely behoven on you as a supporter to give better support than you are giving to players in your comments, also lets have a little more faith that maybe the manager actually knows what he is doing.

Personally I think that a 6 million player in his first season has given us balance, a few goals and value for money, I also think he has had some poor games, but to say he has been crap for half the season kind of sums up where you are coming from Digger

Well I should hope it does sum it up cos thats what I meant! Look 5yr I appreciate the thought and effort that went into your post but you decide to come down on me even though to say he’s done extremely well is as subjective and arguable as to say what I said? As someone above said Rieras been ‘ok’ at best and I probably agree with that. ‘Ok’. A passing grade. A D or a C in other words. Not an f (crap) and not an A (extremely well). A passing grade for you Mr. Riera. Crack them fucken books next year lad!

Burgerman Rafa bought Hobbs early on in his tenure and almost 5yrs on it seems the lad aint gonna cut it. I think after 5yrs of observation if Rafa thinks 400k is the best for Hobbs and for the club then we should go with it. No way the lad was gonna displace one of the big 3 so its probably best for all. Think I’m just gonna leave your Hypia was a better all round centre half than Hansen comment alone! Love your posts though, you dont change your style despite regular lampooning for said style, good for u!

FS,

Its nothing.. Just to share what the Scum is about.

Looks like lady boy is finally leaving.

Ps:
I thought the great man’s quote is for our small neighbour?

personally, i thought Riera did OK overall (though he was really shit in some games). he did offer a different dimension (I thought he did OK to dislodge babel from the left wing.)

It was indeed Skeat, but I think it applies to them bastards.

And then there was two.

Oh goody I see it have a go at Digger day my favorite person to disagree with, since LB has mellowed (joke LB not the start of another argument). You do make me laugh Digger because you are so adamant in your comments, gleefully so it seems at times, that I often wonder if you are taking the piss because you are bored or you actually see things, as 5year point out, as so black and white.

Not that I want to carry on an argument that is really not that interesting in the whole scheme of things, but just to point out one or two things, firstly before Reira came there where loads of people calling him crap, failure at Man City etc, we paid 6 mill, a pittance in today’s transfers for a very important position that we needed. Nanni, Bently cost more than twice that to put it into perspective, Arsenal paid nearly double that for a very young Walcott. So we have to agree it was a risk, but at little outlay because the borrowers and Parry, in their wisdom thought Keane was a better buy than Barry who was Rafa’s first choice and priority.

If we are being honest he was an instant success and played some really great games, gave us balance on the left, which benefited the whole team and helped the overall performance of the team. Yes he did tail off after Christmas has a few shockers and anonymous displays. Could this be because he missed preseason, did not have the stamina or conditioning to last a full season in the Prem? These are the factors that are swept away when you condemn him as being crap. Recently, after being benched a few times his performances have picked up, enough to suggest he does need a good preseason. He has the class and touch as he showed in the first half of the year\. You don’t just loose that, so when evaluating how and what a player has contributed to the team, all the factors need to be weighed up. First season, new country, new team, lack of physical preparation and taking everything into account I think he has been a reasonable success. After all we are in second and still challenging, a big improvement from last year and he has been part of that improvement.

Looks to me like people actually agree with Digger, but just use a different word for crap. A “shocker”, or “anonymous display”, or “shit in some games”, or “even gone off the boil”, could all be construed as eh…crap. Just to point out some logic – to say he’s had a good first half-season, but overall he’s was okay, suggests that he had a crap second half-season for it to even-out to “okay” overall. Just sayin’, t’sall! For what it’s worth, I think he was average overall. (;-)

Glad I’m keeping you amused Keith! However I dont see things as black and white as you and 5yr would like to think and I certainly dont make a point out of boredom or as a piss take. To be fair Keith thats a less than charitable take on my points and infers that I’m something of a prankster or someone who’s point cant be taken seriously. A notion thats a little unfair perhaps? I can only hope you’ll be more kind in your future assessments!

So a passing grade then eh Aiyic?! I think we’ve all finally reached a concensus perhaps? Just wanted to add Keith pretty much agree with your take on Riera but (surprise!) disagree with one thing; your possible reasoning for his indifferent form of late, that being no preseason has somehow robbed him of stamina and conditioning. As a season progresses wouldent a player gain stamina and conditioning? Get fitter and stronger? Instead of the opposite? Did he not have a preseason in Spain? Thoughts?

This has fuck all to do with Riera. This is over one thing and one thing only… Digger reads my post, finds what he can attack and then we spend days internet boxing over a load of bollacks. It’s both entertaining and boring. But the fact is, for some reason, (probably because I’m older, Scouse and know a little bit of what I’m on about), he likes to… what does he call it? Have reasonable well thought out logical debates with me. Such as he’s crap.

As for people not agreeing with my assesment of Riera, I’m not surprised nor am I bothered. FFS, I am being lectured by a man who didn’t understand what happened to our transfer money last summer. On top of that, I know I’m right and Rafa seems to agree…

Riera’s made more starts than most players – even Torres and only 2 behind Gerrard. He’s made more starts on the left than any other player – in a position that has been fought for by Babel, Bennayoun, Aurellio, Dosenna, Insua.
He has started in 39 games and scored 5 goals.
He was thrown into the deep end and made his debut against Man U at Anfield – in which I pointed out he was far better than Berbatov who was making his Man U debut (If I remembrer rightly) and cost us under a fifth of that players fee.

We are 3 games from the finish line.
We are still in it.
We have missed our main striker for a large part of the season.
We have missed our second striker for a large part of the season.
In a supposed 2 man team, they’ve played together something like 14 times.
We had the Keane debacle.
We have a wide right mid-fielder that most in here called shite for season’s on end and are only just starting to say decent things about, some still rather begrudingly at that.
But despite all that (and I could add more but can’t be arsed) we have reached the quarter finals of the CL and are still fighting for the league with 3 games left.

Someone is obviously responsible for that. Someone has kept us going forward when we have lost our main strike force.
Someone is responsible for us having scored 69 goals in the league.
Someone has assited with that highest goals scored by any team this season tally.

Myself, for them facts and statistics, I like to applaud Rafa’s tactics and the so called lesser players such as Riera, Bennayoun and Kuyt.

Not once have I ever called any of our players or our manager crap. In fact, I’m tired of spending season after season in here defending them and explaining we can’t afford them great world beaters like Tevez and Berbatov. I’m tired of explaining that we have to build a machine from cheaper parts that adds up to a whole that can compete. I’m tired of explaining that that machine is nearly complete.

In fact, I’m just getting tired of a lot of this shite. I’m so tired of it, I’m not even going to go into Riera’s season as a whole. I’m not going to discuss the good start to his season, or the point where it started to go a bit awry. I know exactly what the lad has done since arriving – good and bad. I know the difficulties he’s faced both on and off the pitch. And when I take it all into consideration, I’d like to pat the lad on the back for an exteremly good contribution to our season.
But what’s the point in discussing that with people who’s contribution to these reasoned debates that he keeps going on about is… he’s crap.

In fact, if the majority of the posters in this forum would have had their way, this whole argument wouldn’t have taken place as we would have probably had Klinsmann at the helm, Parry as his right hand man, and been wallowing in mid-table now with no Torres, Reina, Arbeloa, Alonso, Aurelio, etc, etc, etc…. Riera and quite possibly Gerrard.

So, aiyic no. I’m not a bit surprised a lot of you agree with Digger. I’m speaking with people who don’t even understand how fatigue can affect a players form and how that fatigue can build up over a season because of a lack of proper conditioning.

And the funny thing is… after all this, don’t be a bit surprised if Rafa sells Riera in the summer.

I am too caught up in sleepless nights and dirty nappies to get too worked up about the Riera debate, I do remember him having a great game at home Villa fairly recently, and remember the players before him, Kewell, Zendan & Gonzalez, I think he is an improvement on all of those, and as Keith said we are still going for the title and Riera has being playing most of the season, that fact can’t be ignored

As kind as your assessment of Reira, pot, kettle, glasses houses stones? My comments were more tongue in cheek and you do tend to get heavy and pedantic in your statements which you are entitled to before you bounce it back to me, just that people see it as that, in their opinion as well of course, whether you like it or not that is fact non, form their perspective of course. So you cannot get upset for people reacting to the way you are and come across because that’s how they read you from what you have written.

Are you trying to say that the Spanish league matches up to the Prem in terms of physical demands? Not by a long shot in my books. Most overseas players will tell you that the demands of the Prem are second to none anywhere in the world. If you have played sport at a very high level, even club( social club) level for that matter as the season progresses and you have not had a decent stint of winter training (preseason) you will suffer fatigue as the seasons demands get tougher and tougher towards the second half of a season. The conditioning work, strength training, weight training, heavy aerobic work etc are all done in the off season, which prepares you stamina and depth wise for the slog a head. In season training is more geared towards skill, speed and team work. This is very much an over simplification of the process but I hope you get my drift. If you miss the strength and stamina work it will catch up to you at some point hence the comments of Reira drop in performance, tired bodies make more mistakes and are not the Duracell bunnies we would like them to be. I think that has been one of Masch’s problems this year and hence his inconsistencies, Babbel as well, he is in an even worse position because he was injured at the same time.

All I was trying to do was point out that there is much more than just he was crap from December onwards and far from being unfair I was trying to lighten the mood.

Keith you’re wasting your time. We are talking about a team/squad – that depite all the trials and tribulations both on and off the field – are still in there fighting and mounting their first proper title challenge. I’m just glad that some of you in here understand that and how hard that is on a squad. All parts of that squad have contributed, except for Degan – who I’m not prepared to slag as the lad could hardly be blamed for what has happened.

But you have to remember that these arguments in here are conducted against people that think saying, “We don’t know how to challenge for a title.” Is some sort of heracy, when it was actually stated as a rallying call for next season.

You better sticking to the reasoned debate, i.e..
He’s crap.
No he’s not.

FS I was just saying, while everyone was on Digger’s back about his tone, they actually agreed with him overall. And you too, to a point. You’re not saying Riera set the world alight – but you’re reasoning as to why is probably on the money. We all agree – happy days. I think he’s a fantastic upgrade, and can be (and should) be happy with his first season.

Looking at the silly season is all part of being a LFC fan, and is all harmless fun and banter.

I saw on the main-site forum that Yuri Zhirkov was linked with us. Now he is an upgrade on Riera, and would be great competition for him too, and plays left-back for Russia too. Yuri, Silva and a regular Agger. And maybe Zarate or Negredo for quality backup for Nando.

Da-zvidanya Babel and Dosser – privyet Yuri.

Fuck FS I hope all these rumours that are going around, especially what you have been told about Barry are not true. With the season Alonso has had I don’t want last year’s debacle rearing its ugly head. I just cannot see Barry being content to sit on the bench. We have enough left sided players we need to concentrate on the right side for a change. I think Leto will be back as well so if Barry comes there will be a few casualties and that could disrupt the team.

I also hope the rumours concerning Lucas are just that as well, I know he is not everybody’s cup of tea but I see a lot of potential in this lad and we will regret it if he goes. He is only 22 there is a still lot of time to get the best out of him; his runs into the box and the space he creates and gets into are very good. Confidence and support will do him a world of good, toward the end of last season his vision and passing was better than Alonso’s, if the fans get behind him we will see him raise to the challenge.

Rafa has been making the right noises saying that he does not want to sell anybody I really hope that is true. For me Babbel is in the most precarious position especially if Leto comes back. I would like him to stay and maybe be given a more central role but Rafa might just cash in on him if he has to. If Barry does come and we keep Alonso which we have to after the way he has played this season, then I can see Dossena going as well.

It is going to make for a very interesting summer, one thing is for sure Rafa will throw out sentiment and make the choice which he thinks will benefit the team the most so we have trust in that.

Gerrard rightfully wins the PFA Fans’ Player of the Year Award. It’s obvious that fans know better than all these Scum cocksuckers in the PFA.

Most ridiculous is Gordon Taylor’s remark

“Obviously, that particular award (PFA Players’ Player of the Year) went to Ryan Giggs, and rightly so, ”

Rightly so MY COCK! Giggs only started for like 12 fucking matches. Last I remembered, the award was called “Player of THE YEAR”, not “Lifetime Achievement Award”.

If one year, you give a prestigious actor like Tom Hanks an Oscar for Best Actor when he’s not even appeared in any movie for that year, there would be a massive riot. Everyone in the PFA has been bought by that Ferguscum, I tell ya.

Its a conspiracy Fatty! Fair enough Keith, I appreciate and recognize the levity in your post but cant agree with your reasoning of lack of preseason and therefore supposed lack of stamina and conditioning resulting in Rieras indifferent form of late. Sorry mate but it simply dosent stand to reason that training 5 days a wk plus playing a match every wknd and sometimes another midweek would result in a depreciation in stamina or conditioning. By any logic regarding fitness surely the lad would be stronger?!

Riera’s position is the first I’d look at to upgrade for next season. He has indeed dropped off since Christmas and it could very well be down to the physical demands of the Premier League. Before Christmas I thought he did well but not great. Admittedly he did better than I expected when he first arrived. At £6m you could say he’s provided good value for money but that is not the issue in my opinion. The issue for me is improving our team going forward so we are better in the future. So while Riera can get a pat on the back for contributing to a likely 2nd place PL finish I think we need to upgrade his position if we want to win the league or CL next season.

As the season comes to an end Rafa will look at how he can improve the squad or team. Not look for scapegoats. As a supporter I look at the squad and have an opinion on how it can be improved. The first thing that comes into my mind is an upgrade on Riera. That is not scapegoating, it’s identifying an area that could do with improvement.

Riera has good skill and a nice touch, and is clever. He offers good width and thus offers the team balance. However in my opinion he’s too slow and his crossing isn’t the best. He doesn’t score a lot of goals either. 12 goals in 83 for Espanyol and 5 in 36 for us.

It’s possible his goal scoring and crossing and overall consistency will improve next season but he’ll never be quick.

So that’s my analysis.

I wouldn’t hold out no hope for Leto Keith. There’s still trouble with his work permit and he’s been getting into a bit of trouble at Olymipacos. Don’t know how he’s been doing in the last few months but I know he got himself in the soup on loan, and was called a very disruptive character. And we know Rafa won’t stand for that.

I’ve been hearing quite a few rumours. Funny enough… I was on the phone with mate who told me about Barry being done and dusted this morning. Long story short, he’s now told me, it’s not a cert but if we want him we can have him. Apparently it’s now a case of Rafa giving it the yeah or neigh.

As for the others, I’ve heard so many names being bandied about that I’m taking no notice. I suppose we’ll just have to wait and see, and obviously it’s all down to how much Rafa recieves. I think if he gets the usual 20 or so million, and is given the Keane money as promised, we won’t see too many leaving, hopefully just the deadwood and a few kids that aren’t going to make it. But if he just gets the 20 million, I reckon we could see a bit of a clear out… And yes. It could well include Riera.

I’d definitely keep Riera, but if Zhirkov available = no-brainer. I love this guy; can ya tell? Riera has improved on his post-Crimbo slump and I think he is well worth his place.

Lucas should definitely be kept. The role he plays is a mature one; how can we rate a 22yr-old at this stage of his career. And he got a hair-cut. So he stays in my book.

I wouldn’t keep Babel. Not that he’s that bad – it’s that he is quite valuable, without being very effective for us.

Wow, ya take a day off the boards and when you come back in all you find is chunks of flesh on the ground, blood spatter on the ceiling and …er… bits of handbags hanging from the light fixtures.

Its like the Battersy Ladies Auxilliary reenacting Custer’s Last Stand.
You people are more entertaining than reruns of Monty Python episodes.

Like I said in a long lost post, whenever there is the option/opportunity to upgrade on a player it should be done. That’s not to say the aim should be to just go and buy Galacticos. But if selling a player – any player – to bring in a better player that will fit into the team and system is an option then it should be taken. It’s what great teams and managers do.

Steven Gerrard to AC Milan for 70 mill FS?

Lads I came home from Liverpool on the train today and Michael Thomas was sitting about 4 rows in front of me. Was gonna go over and say hello but he was fast asleep. Then when on London underground on my way from Euston to Brixton I see him again on my carriage. Just as I was thinking of saying hello he ups and gets off at Stockwell.

Would we get a better player in return Atich for that 70 mill?

Just for the record Aiyac
I did not agree with Digger, in essence or substance.
As I said in my previous post things are not black and white and Riera has NOT been crap for half a season, I said he had a couple of poor games, so has everybody else in the side.

I’m sorry but I think this is important for a couple of reasons

1 We have to stop this business of singling out players when whats at stake here is the teams ability to function as a unit, and Riera has been an important part of that unit.

2 LB i’m going to pick up your post, not because there’s anything I particularly disagree with because its just an opinion about Riera and one that is fairly stated, but I want to take issue with a problem that we seem to have recently as supporters.
We have to allow players to find their feet, time and again we have taken issue with players who have not played for us for long or often.

It goes to the heart of the whole debate about the modern game, if players and managers are shuffled out the door because of the reactions of supporters what you get is Newcastle and Tottenham
constantly changing and buying big names to satisfy a culture that doesn’t understand that football is a team game and not a bunch of superstars with no direction.
So if the player you need to do a particular job is a bit slow, but does have the other quality’s you need to make the team function then that is what you get, especially if your funds are low and you cant afford to buy Ribery

Now I know Riera has played a lot of games this season and we should judge him on performances but we were saying the same things about Kuyt not so long ago and I believe that is an argument that has been decided by subsequent events.

I’m not having at go at anyone over holding an opinion on this, I just want to make the point that we have to look to the long term and have faith in the managers judgement in these things and Rafa seems to think(judging by the amount of starts) that Riera is at present our best option in that position possibly because he has a better head on him than some of our other options.

In truth there are not many players in the present set up that can be accused of not playing their part this season and if Rafa does strengthen with a couple of good buys then he will have the problem of having to drop players who have worked hard and played well, something I’m sure he won’t mind too much

If you can get a bettr player that would suit the team better than the player you have in that position, then yes. Or if you can get huge money and build a team without that player that brought the huge money in, then yes.

Well, that’s the theory but then sometimes there’s certain players you’ll never replace. One offs who come along once in a life time. To me, Gerrard is one of them. I now see him as the complete player, probably the most complete I’ve ever seen. The lad would probably be brilliant in goal. And by the time he finishes his career, I think he will be recognised as our best ever player.

5 year, while all us internet managers and geniuses argued over Kuyt, this is what Rafa said…
Rafa Benitez believes the ‘ugly’ work done by Dirk Kuyt is just as important to Liverpool as the goals of Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard.
Kuyt hit his first league strike since November against Man City last week, but the gaffer doesn’t measure his Dutch forward’s contribution in goals.

“His teamwork is amazing,” Benitez told Liverpoolfc.tv. “When you talk about a team, that’s the most important thing.

“Players like Kuyt are key. You can use the quality of people like Fernando Torres or Steven Gerrard, but you always need players working really hard.

“If you have players with offensive mentality, you need players who can do the ugly jobs. You need to work hard in defence. As a striker, Kuyt is doing his defensive work very well and also scoring important goals.”

PS… They’ve given Arsenal fans them plassie flags. Have they got no shame in that London.

HA! Remember that woeful karoake at Man U when they played us? I stuck the youtube link in here… Untied Roads. It was cringe worthy. Well, Arsenal are doing one – “That’s The Wonder Of You!”

Worse fans in the league Arsenal, even worse than Chelsea if that’s possible… HOOF!

Fucking idiots. I feel embarassed for them, they obviously have no shame themselves. The day that happens in Anfield is the day I’ll become a Youth In Asia… Hari Kari like.

1 nil to the mancs. You won’t hear a fucking peep from the arsenal fnas now. Jammy fucking goal an all. I tell you the Devil will soon be calling at Old Toilet to claim the soul he bought off that tramp in 1990.

Arsenal are fucking useless. If we’re relying on them getting a point at Old Trafford we can forget it!

2 nil… stick a fork in their arse, their done.

Lets just hope they kick fuck out of the mancs now

Arsenal started well LB. Both goals were gifts.

Their defense are all overt he place. Every time the mancs break they look like they’ll score. Can nobody stop this fucking manc team? Fuck sake.

jammy slip from gibbs, and a gift of a freekick.

unbelievable

Yeah LB. Us. We showed them how to do it. Fulham followed the example. They arent’ that good. They’ve wobbled along most of the season, aided by bad refs. But their tails will be up now and they will take some stopping now.

Only consolation is, hopefully Arsenal will be determind to fuck them up in the league.

Arsenal fans a re fucking awful. They don’t deserve a decent football team. Mancs taking the piss out of them and they are fucking crap themselves – singing old stolen Liverpool songs. And I can just about hear Are You Watching Merseyside coming through. They do it every game, no matter who they are playing. They obsessed with us. They know we put them to shame.

This might seem like sour grapes and very trivial. But if the kunts grew a spine and backed their team the players might respond, nad surprise, surprise, these fucking shithouse refs might even stop giving every decision the mancs way.

They honestly don’t deserve to win fuck all. Just a shame they both can’t lose

This is not trivial….

I tell you what’s happening here – if Highbury was a Library, this Emirates gaff is a fucking cemetary.

The only noise the Arsenal fans are making is to ironically cheer the ref everytime he gives them a decision. This has two effects…
1: The ref gets pissed off, gives them even less.
2: The Arsenal players start to feel the world and his wife is against them. their heads drop.

FFS wave your little plassie flags and fucking sing something. Even the Karaoake if you need to. Get behind your fucking players, put the pressure on the ref by scarring him not by trying to be sarcastic. You crap kunts. Play your part.

Wow, comparing Arsenal fans to Chav fans? really FS?
Don’t get me worng, I don’t follow their patterns, or claim to know a great deal about either of them, but it seems the Arse have far more “truer” fans than the Chavs.

I suppose though that when you have a stadium the size of the Emirates, you’re not gonna get a “solid” fanbase… and here’s what Imean by that…

There are those who complain about the quality of fans in Anfield from time to time… image who’ll be filling the 20-30k extra seats in the new Stanley Park stadium? (hehe… like that’s ever gonna get fuckin built?)
It won’t be lads from Kirby, West Derby, Scotty Road, Toxteth, and Woolton (Woolton??? I’ve just give meself away there!) that will be filling those seats at 5 quid a head.
Who’ll be waving plassie flags then, I wonder?
It’ll be toffs and Tourists at 30 quid a head.

For fucks sake is there no fucken justice in the world? Karma? Hope? I cant believe what I’m seeing. How can these despicable disgusting cunts keep doing this? Its beyond comprehension. There is something else afoot here. Its fucken supernatural how these bastards keep doing this. They really are in the hands of the dark one. Im beyond fucken despair here. Someone say something to cheer me up, gimme a ’7-0′ LB, a funny quip Aitch? Anybody? Anything?!

wow, the ref has given some absolute bogus free kicks to the mancs.

Aitch, they are worse than fucking Chelsea fans. They’re historically a great old team. Chelsea have the excuse of just attracting glory hunting wankers in the last few years.

These fucking wankers have just booed their team off the field. that’s really going to lift the players for the second half.

Thank fuck I’ll probably be dead when these sort of twats finally take Anfield over.

Wenger has really lost it over the last few years
He’s so wrapped up in his philosophy of playing beautiful football he’s forgot about having a solid base to build it on, as for Almunia for England, dont make me fucking laugh, I’d rather have James

This is pure shit. The Arsenal fans have already booed them off at half time. If they don’t score quick, they’ll start booing them in play at a moment. The players will give in altogether. The mancs will have another easy ride. The tramp will take off Rooney and Ronaldo and just run down the clock. They’ll have a fully fit and dead confident team for their Derby.

When the fuck are other teams and referees going to wake up to this shit.

have arsenal actually had a shot on goal yet?

They started off quite well Lurgan. they had a good ten minutes. United would have eventually buckled. the fucking mancs get the jammy breaks. The Arsenal fans and players bottle it.

Fucking disgrace.

I think Ronaldo is the most easily hated person in the wold. Just got another. Look at his celebration…. ME ME ME LOOK AT ME. AREN’T I WONDERFUL.

When are refs going to get fed up with this kunt, diving, rolling on the floor like he’s been shot, standing up, taking the free kick without a sign of the bullet hole.

One disgusting twat.

Arsenal “fans” leaving in droves. Tramp will soon rest players. This turns into a training session for the manc derby.

Oh well, not to worry. I bet Rafa is fucking seething. Him and the lads will want to fucking destroy them next season.

Fuck me to tears. This is a training exercise for the mancs. I’m depressed.

Shit nasri picked up a booking. He’ll miss the finals if arsenal qualify!!!

223…. neigh swan lad

What a pack of wankers the Arsenal ‘collective/fans’ are. The plastic flags went down after the 1st goal FFS.

It seems Arsenal can only score against a decent side if they make a mistake.

Ref is a bit harsh there though.

When the fuck is Wenger gone wise up…. Buy a fucking centre half and a decent defensive mid fielder you daft cunt. There is the back bone of a good team at Arsenal. A few tweaks and they would be great. They need some fucking steel. Almunia was fucking laughing after the second goal. Get shut of the shite Wenger and spend some money on the missing links you knobhead.

As for the mancs, they really aren’t that great. More hype than substance there. Before anyone has a go at that. Think about it.

FS, 223 was to hopefully cheer Digger up.

This ref is a joke!

Mancs win at a canter!

When was the last team to win their league and the European cup double 2 years in a row? Fucking hell. I’m sick to my stomach right now. And if the Chavs win tomorrow I’m only watching Cricket until August.

“… when you’re chewing on life’s gristle
don’t grumble, give a whistle,
and this’ll help thing’s turn out for the best,
sooo….”

… well p’raps not? (sorry Dig, best I could come up with, today)

FS, I’ll defer to your opinion on the Chav/Arse fans, since I neither know enough about them, nor care a fuck for either set.

but if there was any justice in the world (which we all know there is not) then some sort of bio weapon would get detonated in the Rome stadium during the Chav/Manc final…
…only problem with that…
… only about 4000 Manc fans and 2000 Chav fans would be there to be affected… the rest would be Italian seat fillers, and UEFA dignitaries (of course that last group would be an upside!)

This match is too painful for me to watch. Can someone prescribe a very strong sleeping pill?

LB I have 4 tics for the T20 world cup if you fancy. Possibly ind v aus and pak v sl day. And off to Lords for the ashes too. This game will be a distant memory by then.

I fancy them tickets Bhav. What venues are those games being played?

Tell you the result of all this…. media goes into a manc frenzy. Arsenal “fans” go on a media attack calling for Wenger’s head.

The whole picture becomes distorted again. Other teams will start to believe the mancs are invincible again. All there shite performances will be forgotten. Shite footballers like O’Shea and Fletcher will be made into lions again. Old cunts like Giggs and Scholes will be given too much respect and look good again. And I could go on, but there’s something better to say…

Rafa and our lads will fucking hate it. They will see it as injustice. I refuse to give up on this season. But when Rafa wants to gee up the lads next season, all he has to do is play a DVD of the mancs season.

Imagine if one of our players dived like Ronaldo, rolled around in absolute agony and then got up and twatted the free kick in… do you think the commentators would be blowing their load as they screamed his name.

It’s a fucking disgrace, but this is what we face. It’s down to us to put an end to it, especially if Wenger doesn’t get his fucking head together, stops refusing to change, play shitty football when it’s needed and buy some fucking steel. What a gobshite.

PS Bhavster… Might take a bit more than that for Digger but it put a smile on my face.

Cheers bhav and Aitch, I actually found your bio-weapon idea funnier Aitch! Was having a good chuckle til LB alerted me to the fact that these hateful poisonous cunts might actually win the league and c.l 2 yrs in a row. Now I’m really fucken depressed….

I only hope this will make Arsenal want to seek revenge in their league match against Arsenal. One can only hope that this is a blessing in disquise.

That is indeed the only consolation. If you get about this manc team they can buckle. Let’s just hope Arsenal are determined to do so. I think the game against Chelsea will also have some say in this, becase if Arsenal beat them they can then steal 3rd spot off them by beating the mancs.

And thankfully it isn’t in front of them tossers that where there tonight. It honestly isn’t a trivial matter. A good support sets the tone. If they would have stayed behind the team after the first goal they might have kept their heads up.

I think tomorrow will be just as depressing. Barcelona are apparently without their 2 first choice centre backs. So, I can see it now. I said it in a previous blog anyway. But that news has just confirmed it for me…
Dropba doing his Platoon poster impersonations all over the pitch. All the big fellas piling into the box. Fatty lumping it in looking for them. Porky horrible cheated goal. Barca get pulled back, tripped and obstructed all over the pitch. The game descending into a stop start nightmare of niggly professional fouls and Chelsea robbing the result.

Football is so depressing at times.

we knew from the beginning that the mancs had an easy route to the final. our side had barcelona, chelsea, and bayern munich. there’s had porto, arsenal, and villareal. not much of a challenge if you ask me…yes, they are all decent sides on their day, but come on, its so unbelievable the luck of the draw.

i’m so tired of the referee decisions they receive as well. they need to install retroactive point penalties for diving leading to set pieces that influence the outcome of a game. how many undeserved penalties and free kicks have the mancs won a game with in the past 5 seasons? this season alone, they would have not won a handful of games. its disgraceful.

FS, it might not be such a bad thing if the Chavs beat Barca tomorrow.
Do Barca really have what it takes to beat Scum?
Whereas the Chavs will be so fuckin hell bent on revenge.
The other side to that coin is… if Roman does win the CL, will he stick around or fuck off witht he one he wanted all along?

That could … well it would no doubt about it… leave the Chavs seriouslt fucked (and good riddence.)

Scum are gonna lose Winker and Tevez int he summer… and if the rumors about Ribbery are true, then at least that’s the bulk of the money they’re getting for Winker gone!
Ribbery is good, but he ain’t gonna get them the game-winners that Winker did and with Tevez gone.

But fuck em all. We are in good shape, will add a few good-uns over the summer, hopefully without letting too many of the current squad leave, and we’ll have something to look forward to.

Addendum to my previous statement…I should say that I mean, aside from the severe nausea the Chavs winning the CL would cause, it might not be a bad thing.
Someon MUST stop Scum and I wonder if the Chavs are better suited to do so?

Yep I reckon a Chelsea v Manure CL final. The ultimate no-win game for me. The 2 teams with supporters I like the least in the world right now.

So what do you say eh ?

How the mighty have fallen LB, Michael Thomas getting off the tube at Stockwell. I lived there for a while and it’s one grim tube station indeed.

Anyway I can’t see Roman buzzing off if Chavski pull it off. Much to the contray I reckon he’ll be buzzed up and build on it. Oh God, sorry Digger not much light relief here but hey …. you could be Corkie seeing all this being played out in front of him and his pile of nappies as another sleepless night beckons !

Me ? I’m off to bed. My little rebel redette is 1 tomorrow. Got a good bottle of Fizzpop cooling and I’m gonna enjoy tomorrow. Chavski, their mangy fans, Steven Cohen, and the fawning Brittish Media can do whatever they feckin’ well want. Tomorrow belongs us … the future is good.

Love to all !!!

In a perfect world Aitch the season would end like this…
League – Us.
FA Cup – Everton
CL – Barcelona

And I think I am going to hold on to that hope rather than picking the lesser of 2 evils. But I agree with the rest of your post.

I’m off to bed now. Put an end to this day, but I will say this… I honestly believe we won’t have to suffer this much longer. To try and take away from what man u and the tramp have achieved over the last two decades, well, it just looks ridiculous. Their record speaks for itself.

They’ve also been quite dispicable at times, both the manager and the team. In fact, the team and it’s success is built in one man’s image. Shankly done pretty much the same thing. But that club has reflected ferguson for over 2 decades now, and it’s not a pretty site. Also due to his ego and personality, there is no boot room. There is no natural successor, and that will prove a real problem when he leaves.

There will be no easy transition. Also I have a feeling whoever inherits the job will have to cope with mr ferguson hanging on, refusing to fade into the background and interfering.

On top of that quite a few players are getting old and some will obviously leave sooner rather than later. And like I said earlier, some of their players are decidely ordinary. Of course, they aren’t bad players, but are the likes of Nani, Anderson, Hargreaves, O’Shea, Fletcher, Park and Carrick names that will dominate football for years to come. I don’t think so.

So, like I’ve said a million times we are possibly witnessing the beggining of the end. It won’t happen overnight. They won’t go down without a fight, but they will go down. Of that I’m absolutely convinced.

I also think mr ferguson sees this, but we know he’s a nasty old bugger. We know he absolutely hates Liverpool. So, I think we can safely say he will do absolutely everything in his power to stop us. But at the end of the day, I also think he knows his time is very nearly up and he has met his match in Rafa.

The stupid media will harp on about The Master and continue to back him to the hilt. But as despicable as he is, he’s no fool. He knows Rafa is light years ahead of him tactically. He knows Rafa is a new breed of manager. He knows his methods and ideas are new and the blueprint for the future. His only answer is to buy huge and hope that high priced players are enough to negate what Rafa is doing. It won’t be.

I would have preffered him to be facing a lot more pressure on a lot more fronts. But Wenger seems incapable of changing his ways. And though I think Chelsea will continue to challenge for a few more years yet, I see them eventually fading back to what they really are – a mid table club capable of winning the odd cup. So, that leaves us and it’s just a matter of time. How long before we completely turn the tide? I don’t know. But I’m convinced it’s sooner rather than later.

So, off to bo bo’s, a pissed off but releaved red.

happy birthday to yossi

Well FS carefull what you wish for…………..
I fully understood your thinking of man scum having more games but what effect will it have now???? Arsenal should be fucking ashamed of themselves and everything about the stupid fucking club!!!!(fans leaving on 60mins!!!!!)

I mean for the most of the premiership to play utd and walk out already beaten is one thing but for this “beautiful sexy football team” to do it is just embarrassing. As usual the’ve gave them all the hope in the world. They go into sundays clash with players well rested and fully confident. City better get fuckin stuck in, injury the bastards make them work for every ball.

Ronaldo is so caught up in his own hype i mean that third goal – ape boy knocked his pan in made a amazing run plays an inch perfect ball, faggot boy scores an just runs away celebrating like he did all the hard work!!!!

just picture kyut putting it in he’d be straight over to the playmaker showing the love!! I cant understand how theres suppose to be a god and he can let these fucks win FOUR champions league games and be in another final.

Christ please let ferguscum die on the pitch at anfield after we win 10-0!!!!

Depressing indeed.

Hate to say this but me thinks chelsea are better suited to stopping the scum. Guus will have the tactical nous whilst Pepe is still a bit wet behind the ears.

Still a sickening scenario.

Fer all our endeavour, only 2nd place to show fer it . . . sigh.

ps: Me player of the year is Yossi.

FS, very encouraging post in #242 after such a depressing night, where once again, the solemnity of a Champions League final is already half-sullied by the presence of the Scum.

I would hope the other half remains pure after tonight, so come on Barca, nick the away goal, even if it’s an ugly score draw, and have the Chavs eat their own medicine of trying to play ugly football.

The match last night proved one thing – Arsenal are shite without Arshavn, with or without easy goals. To clutch on straws, at least Arshavn will be available when they seek revenge against the Scum in Castle Greyskull 10 days from now.

To LB #229, while you may be watching cricket, if worst case scenario happens, I’ll be watching tennis this summer. Roland Garros and Wimbledon, will Federer make a come back, or will Nadal (who I claim as my “other Rafa” ) continue his climb to the top.

Speaking of sportsmanship, that fucking wanker is NOTHING compared to the class and humbleness of these two great tennis rivals.

Congrats to your wee redette Dougle! Lets hope she has a nice chelski thumping to celebrate tomorrow. Lads if Barca dont win tomorrow and restore my wavering faith in football I think I will be physically sick at the prospect of another shitfest manc chav final. I can honestly say if its these 2 disgraces to the game in the final I wont watch it. How can a lover of football look forward to, watch and enjoy the worlds greatest club final degraded by 2 cheating diving despicable clubs like these? C’mon barca.

I just want to pass on my congratulations to Man United on reaching the final. They’re a credit to the country.

Just kidding…I like the bioterror idea as well. Come on Barca tonight.

MTMMC.

Hi all!

I have been reading all the posts over the last few days.

@FS

Your post #242 is like a sweet dream which gives a lot of hope. I hope it happens.

I am not too sure about this being the beginning of the end of ManchesterUnited. Their fundamentals as a football club are good. They are financially sound. They have got a 60k seater stadium with a good fan base across the world. Good players wants to play for them and most importantly they keep on winning trophies season after season.

So irrespective of Fergusson goes or not,ManU will remain a force to reckon with for some time to come. The question is can we overcome them? Can we beat them at their own game? This season we have beaten them fair and square, won the tactical battles, made them to think of us as a serious threat to their dominance. Onething still eludes us and that is winning the trophies.

We have to hurt them where it will hurt the most. Deny them trophies. Make them realize that its not their divine right to win trophies year after year.

Yesterdays Match
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Arsenal were no match to he honest. The referre was the 12th ManU player on the pitch. The home fans were just pathetic. Wenger might boast about all the talents he discovers but he is simply not winning anything.

Todays Match
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I want Football to be victorious tonight. Barca should win because they are class. Chlesea can only dream about playing such high quality football.Defense will be a problem for the Catalans but i expect them to come out with a goal scoring draw. However, the hiddink factor worries me. He is a master.

MTMMC, I was just about to perform a brain surgery on you for your post at #248, and then I saw your last sentence.

somnath, the Ferguscum factor will weigh in a lot on whoever succeeds him. Unlike the Chavs, the Glazers do not have an infinite bank account, and just because they trust Ferguscum to spend big does not mean they’ll quickly trust his successor to do the same instantly.

“Their fundamentals as a football club are good. They are financially sound.”

The fundamentals of Liverpool, Villa, Arsenal, anyone in the top 10 are good, as well as financially sound.

“They have got a 60k seater stadium with a good fan base across the world.”

We too have a good fanbase around the world, and despite the stadium capacity handicap, Rafa has brought us to a level where we can confidently destroy them on a regular basis.

“Good players wants to play for them and most importantly they keep on winning trophies season after season.”

Not likely after Ferguscum leaves. His successor will be under huge pressure to match him, and he certainly won’t be Paisley to Ferguscum’s Shanks.

And good players are also likely to want to play for us.

So the biggest difference IS Ferguscum leaving, and that is an eventuality, unless he finds a way to unnaturally prolong his life for another thousand years.

@Kinny Riddle

All the things which i mentioned about ManUnited applies to us too.
I never said that we dont have a good fan base or good players dont want to play for us. But we lack the financial muscle, and we lack the market presence of Manchester United across the world. We got to improve on these two areas.

Regarding Fergusson’s successor, well what your are saying is a hope rather than a statement based on facts. What you are saying is Fergusson’s successor will be under immense pressure to perform. I do agree with it but there is no guarantee that the next manager at Old Trafford will definitely fail. It might be the case where the new manager brings his own philosophy and ManU continues to be successfull isnt it?

We at Liverpool therefore have to concentrate on bringing them down to their knees, deny them trophies every season by actually doing better then them in all areas which i mentioned.We have almost got there in terms of our coach,team. We need to work on the off field issues.

The point you are making is simply a guess that they would fail because the nest manager wont be as good as Fergusson. Glazers wont give him money and ManUnited will start sliding down. Everyone here would love to see that happen but Liverpool FC cannnot live with that hope.

A few randoms from me:

1. Digger, no offense mate but up in #192 when you talk about fitness over a season, you have to admit you are just giving your layman’s assessment of how you think things work. I’m not going to give you a lesson in sports science, just take it from me that your logic is far too simplistic and basically wrong. A strong pre-season is very important to a consistent performance over a season in any physically-demanding sport. We’re not just talking about aerobic fitness remember, there are a LOT of other factors. In pre-season they build their base strength and fitness foundations, THEN achieve “match fitness” over the year. Without the base strength & fitness, the levels are difficult to maintain over a sustained period of physical exertion.

Oops, I gave the mini sports science lesson anyway didn’t I.

2. Enough of the moaning about the Mancs making the final guys… it was pretty much always going to happen. Their side of the draw was a piece of piss… that they got there with the help of some poor refereeing and typical diving antics just means they get less respect for getting there. Let’s just pray Barca put on a scoring clinic and do the job tonight… I think you’ll see the better side of Messi tonight.

3. The talk about Ferguson hopefully leaving Man U soon and that we should be looking forward to those years… well I’m not actually on that same line of thinking, not quite anyway. I’d rather us get on top of Man U while the old tramp is still in charge, deny him #19 (hopefully #18 too but that’s looking tougher than ever), basically deny him the ability to “go out in style” on the back of any trophies. Make him try and hang in there before finally getting too old for it all and slinking away with his tail between his legs, being forced to watch Rafa’s dynasty taking over. I agree that Man U may have some shaky years when Whiskeynose leaves, but I don’t want to hear that “Liverpool are only winning now because Ferguson’s departure has left a void that they were ready to fill” or crap like that. I want to stick it up the tramp while he’s still around.

The thing is, I think FS is right and Fergie can see the end is nigh. If, god forbid, they get #18 and the European Cup this year, I could see Fergie walking away claiming that they have “broken” Liverpool’s title records etc, because he knows they are in trouble next year.

Don’t forget lads, on top of this, there is no way that the PFA player of the year can keep up the type of performances that he dished out this season

Andy, I totally agree with you mate.
What are the odds that Arsenal lose to Manc 3 times in a row?

Kopper you reminded me of the other stuff I was going to say! One of which was exactly that – despite their atrocious CL performances against them, I can’t see Arsenal losing to the Mancs 3 times in a row. I’ve also been saying all season (not always in here) that I think the top 4 are going to have consistent results against each other this year – ie after we beat the Mancs once, I thought we’d beath them twice, ditto with Chelsea, ditto with the draws with Arsenal. So I’m expecting Arsenal to beat the Mancs twice.

However, I do think the Mancs are over their “blip”, and it’ll be very tough for anyone else to take points off them now. The saving grace is the old adage that “form goes out the window in a derby match” so there’s hope for City this weekend IF they go for it. I think Robinho loves a big stage though, so fingers crossed.

To somnath

“But we lack the financial muscle, and we lack the market presence of Manchester United across the world. We got to improve on these two areas. ”

Time and time again Rafa has proved quite shrewd in the transfer market. With Prick Parry out of the way, there’ll be hopefully no more of that Barry saga which occupied most of last summer.

“Regarding Fergusson’s successor, well what your are saying is a hope rather than a statement based on facts.”

And can you prove the other way that he will certainly succeed? So yes, I’m guilty as charge and saying it in hope, because why must we despair ourselves that Rafa cannot beat this goon before he even does anything?

“What you are saying is Fergusson’s successor will be under immense pressure to perform. I do agree with it but there is no guarantee that the next manager at Old Trafford will definitely fail.”

Again, with the same logic, there is no guarantee that he will definitely succeed.

“It might be the case where the new manager brings his own philosophy and ManU continues to be successfull isnt it? ”

It might also be the case where things don’t work out in a few months and the Glazers find their patience stretched.

“We need to work on the off field issues. ”

We ARE. Rafa’s new contract? Check. Core players contracts settled or about to be settled? Check. Future of academy sorted out? Check.

“The point you are making is simply a guess that they would fail because the nest manager wont be as good as Fergusson. Glazers wont give him money and ManUnited will start sliding down. Everyone here would love to see that happen but Liverpool FC cannnot live with that hope.”

If Liverpool were stagnant and did nothing since Rafa took over, then yes, you are right.

But the thing is, as long as Rafa is doing fine and steadily improving year by year (a proven fact), our chances of overtaking them WILL become a reality. And just what’s wrong with a little wishful thinking?

And what’s the lyrics in our club’s anthem again?
“Walk on, walk on, with HOPE in your heart.”

Following Liverpool is like following a religion, only less dogmatic and bull-headed than some of the organized and even sinister ones out there, but still you must sometimes throw logic and reason out of the window.

I reckon, If ManCity manages to get something from the scums then I think the belief will come back in other teams that they can get something from them. This applies to Arsenal too.

Our focus should be on beating wet spam with a 3-4 goal margin. There’s no point of us wanting manure to drop points if we dont take all of our chances.

3 draws from Manure will also do the trick for us tho:)

YNWA

The manc derby will be pivotal, if the manure get three points from that I think that our goose will be truly cooked.

Hoping that the citeh have one of their better days away from home.

@Kenny Riddle

Well all i can say is I hope for our success in winning trophies in future.

Meanwhile, check Evra’s comment. I think his comment will spur the Gunners to win at Old Trafford. Our match at West Ham is crucial.

LB, the game is at Lords. I have offered the tics to a few mates – let me check if they can make it. If not, I will get back to you.

Morning lads, I think some of what I said got misunderstood. I don’t think us over taking United is dependent on that old shitty arsed tramp walking. We will surpass them anyway. We are well on our way to doing that already. I was just highlighting where the cracks in that evil empire will start to show first.

I’ve said this a million times in here… if we win the league, that will mean the tramp has to win it 3 more times to finally topple us of our f****ing perch as he so elequently put it. He wouldn’t have the gas left for that. If they win he will need one more season to finally complete his life times work. So, obviously he will stay and try to do that.

The signs of him leaving have already been there this season. Firstly he told his son to leak it to the media and then he contradicted it himself. Sozzled and dispicable or not, you have to give him credit for what he’s good – and controlling the media is one of his major assets.

You could also see how much he is rattled by Rafa and LFC. The ridiculous statements and getting his lap dogs to back them up were quite pitiful. Setting his “sports science” department to investigate Rafa’s spending was hilarious. Google – you old bugger.

As for saying his successor won’t just walk in and everything will go on regardless isn’t a guess. It’s nothing like a guess. Ferguson has built this club in his own nasty image. His ego has stopped him from building in a line of succession. There is no boot room at United. Look at what happened to all his natural successors from as far back as Brian Kidd to Carlos Quieroz. There will be no easy transition for that club.

When he does finally leave the position as coach, chief and head cook and bottle washer, he won’t do so quietly. The older lads will remember what happened with Shankly, some younger ones might have read about it. Shankly had to be barred from Melwood. It hurt everyone involved deeply. But it was a measure that had to be taken. Will the next manager of man u have the power or the bollocks to keep the tramp away. I very much doubt it. And believe me that sort of interference has a terrbile effect on clubs, squads, teams and individual players.

As for financially sound they are in huge massive debt – the biggest in football, some 800 and odd million pounds. First signs of failure on the pitch and they are in trouble. But maybe it won’t even come to that. Look at the trouble they’ve already had with AIG. It could bite them in the arse very soon. And I can’t see anyone there who can do a Rafa and keep the club and team on track as off field matters over take the playing side of things.

So, yes. Add all that to what I said about the footballing side of things in other posts, and there are definite concrete reasons for seeing the cracks in the man u set up.

But I never said we were dependent on them cracking. And we still have plenty of off field troubles of our own. But we know Rafa can steer us through them. Name me one battle he has taken on that he hasn’t won? And despite all these tribulations he has not only kept the team going forward, he has built a rock solid foundation that will serve LFC for many years to go. In fact, in 5 short years, he has totally rebuilt the club from the grass roots up. Imagine what he could have achieved already with out all the shit that has constantly threatened to derail our club.

I have to go now, but wanted to say this before I did… as for top superstars wanting to play for man u? So what? Let them have them. Let them spend 80 million or whatever on Ribbery. That doesn’t bother me one bit. In fact, as I’ve said a million times, it will only make toppling them all the sweeter. I love the fact that we are the underdog in many terms. And as for superstars who fucking wants them. Who wants to see the egotisitical theatrics of Ronaldo over the genuine joy of Torres when they score?

Not fucking me for one. Man u is the club of Best, Cantonna, Ronaldo, give me Callaghan, Rush and Dalglish everytime. We don’t do superstars at LFC. And I trust Rafa to find us the modern equivalent of men like Smith, Hunt, Kennedy, Neal and Thompson. Men who will form a rock solid machine of a team for generations and better them nancy boy mancs to submission.

And Andy, you know who will be the most gutted of all if the tramp walks and denies us the pleasure of seeing him squirm as we overtake them…. Rafa. Believe me mate, he’s got mr ferguson right in his sights and he will move mountains to topple him. But I reckon the tramp will duck the fight. Bully’s only like to fight the weak.

Can’t see the Goons getting much change from their trip to Grayskull.If we win our last 3 games and finish with 80 prem goals,and the best goal difference that is the most that could of been expected-unfortunately the Mancs will finish with their best ever points tally.I reckon the Chavs are a better bet to beat the Mancs.Blue is the colour, football— .

FS just in case there’s any misunderstanding, I know that you weren’t saying our overtaking of United was dependent on the tramp leaving. I was just adding that I hope it happens before he leaves, to deny him the glorious end to his career he wants. Hence I’m not actually looking forward to him leaving, I don’t want to hear him retire at the end of this year. I want to see him go down with the ship. Seems you probably feel the same anyway.

I didn’t catch all of the game this morning but have just seen some of the replay, god the Arsenal fans really should be ashamed of themselves… the stadium half-empty with still 20+ minutes to go. And those plastic flags, hilarious, I wonder if they came with instructions on how to use them. But you know, they really get what they deserve – their team is easily the most mentally weak of the top 4. Their support certainly doesn’t do anything to help that. The commentary I had for the game said “it’s all over” when the 2nd goal went in last night, and they were dead right, Arsenal don’t have the stomach for the fight. Even the most biased commentator knows not to say “it’s all over” about us anymore, no matter the situation.

No, Andy mate. I wasn’t explaining to you. I know you knew what I meant. But I directed the last of me comment to you, to let you know that I’d much rather sink them with the tramp at the helm. I just can’t see him letting that happen though. He’ll fall on his sword rather than face that.

As for Arsenal, I’ve always said their fans don’t deserve a great team, but there is the nucleus of a great team there. We all know the problems, so obviously Wenger does to. Will he give up on his philosphy and attack them? Well any sane person knows he should go out and buy at least one decent centre back if not two, a holding mid fielder to help out Fabragase and a bit of old school muscle. But I don’t think it’s as simple as that. Like you said, there seems to also be a pshychological problem with the team as a whole. But I reckon he got his tactics dead wrong last night.

Arsenal started brightly and the blueprint on how to beat the mancs is there now, so why did Walcot keep drifting inside? He should have stayed wide, found space between Rooney and Evra and then ran at Evra. It could have well unhinged man u, especially if Adebayor could have got inbetween Duckface and Vidic. It happened on a couple of occasions, but they just stopped. That could have been from just plain bottling it, but Wenger should have made them stick to plan. Half the time he was sat with his head in his hands staring at the floor, like a manic depressive.

So, then I suppose it’s down to us to single handedly topple the mancs. Well, like I said…
I think we are already on our way to doing that, but it isn’t going to be easy and it won’t happen overnight. But it is on the cards.

It seems to me the top four clubs are all at the crossroads right now. I always hated that saying for some mad reason, but I think it works here because it seems to me that the next few moves by each club will decide who comes out ahead and leads the pack. These transition times come about every few years. Despite man u’s success I think the league is in one now, and getting the next few moves right will be crucial.

And I know I’m biased, too fucking right I am. But I honestly believe, except for the off field problems we are the club making all the right moves and heading in the right direction.

Thanks for the latest posts FS, pretty much sums what I wanted to explain to somnath.

And somnath, and to everyone else for that matter, for fuck’s sake, spell me name correctly, it’s K-I-N-N-Y, STOP CALLING ME KENNY! I know I may be an egotistical bastard time to time, but not even I admit that I’m so great as to take on King Kenny’s great name.

Remember back to the first half of last season, and there was alot of comparsions between ourselves and the arse, well that debate should be put to bed at this stage.

Check out the RTE analysis from last night, what a laugh.

Dumphy told Souness he didn’t know what he was talking about, and Souness said “Ya, and who have you managed?

To which he replyed “I have managed to stay alive for 63 and a half years baby!”

The big debate about the arse is the lack of transfer funds, I bet Rafa would have got 2 excellent center backs for what they paid for Arse-shaving!

God only knows why Wenger doesn’t go out and buy an experienced quality goal keeper, centre half and a proper midfield player to help Fabregas. It’s plain for all to see that is what they are missing. They haven’t yet replaced Sol Cambpell or Patrick Viera. Their inability to keep key players has harmed them. Their strict wage policy has seen them lose Hleb and Flamini who I thought was wicked next to Fabregas. They let Diara go which seems like lunacy now. When they won the league they had experience quality internationals with steel throughout the spine of the side. So how Wenger thinks he can win anything with a team full of teenagers is beyond me.

Ahh well, we’re just going to have to rely on ourselves to stop Man U. This summer could not be more important. It’s pivotal!!

That’s why I made the points Kinny. I’m not trying to be a smartarse. I was actually trying to install some hope and belief, but I wasn’t just making some rallying call. I firmly believe what I said… we are moving into a period of transition and I really fancy us to come out of it on top.

As for right now though… well, the mancs need seven points to make sure of the league. That means the quickest they can mathmatically seal the title is 3 games away, but the towel is already getting thrown in by some in here. Thank fuck it won’t be by Rafa and the players.

I’ve said for months this weekend will be pivitol. Well, that could be wrong. We both win lose or draw and everything stays the same at the top, except of course they’d be one game closer. But one big thing could change. I’ve said this in me last few comments… if Arsenal do Chelsea on Sunday, it means they can nick 3rd place off the Chavs. Which in turn means automatic CL qualification. So ideally we want a Man u slip and and an Arsenal win on Sunday. That would set up the Man U Arsenal game nicely in our favour to. Arsenal would still be fighting for something and surely they’d want to salvage some pride after that surrender of a game last night.

So, of course it’s all still man u’s to blow. We’ve known that for months anyway. And of course every game that passes without them slipping drags them a little nearer the finish line. But I can’t see the point in throwing in the towel already, but I can see there being one or two twists in the tail of this mad season.

I had the very same discussion with some mates last night LB. We all agreed letting Flaminni go was a huge mistake. But I’m starting to think there’s something more to it. I hate to say it. I was disgusted when Arsenal “Fans” called for Wenger’s head last season, and I even defended Wenger against the few Arsenal fans I know.

And although it’s obvious what positions they need to strenghthen and that they need to add some steel, I think there’s more to it.

Like I said before, arsenal started quite brightly last night, but once they gave the first goal up, they was done. Of course there’s loads of factors to that. But, and I do honestly hate to say this, was that defeat mainly Wenger’s fault?
I don’t think he needed a plan B. I think he needed to stick to plan A and force his team to keep going. But did anybody see him on the bench?

I said it earlier, from as early as 15 minutes he looked shot. He sort of shrank in front of me eyes, up to the point where he was sitting with his head in hands, staring blankly at the floor like he had shell shock.

I’d be worried now if I was a proper Arsenal fan.

We’ve got a tough one this weekend, West Ham away didn’t hold much joy for us last season from memory. However I expect Gerrard and Torres to be playing together which should give us enough firepower to do the job, especially if Alonso is also fit to keep pulling the strings with class. Some of his passing was from a different planet last weekend.

I haven’t, and won’t, throw in the towel until it really is all over, but the manc derby this weekend is a huge one for us. I think City are far more likely to take points off ManU than Wigan or Hull – not that Wigan or Hull don’t have a chance, just you’d rather take your chances with City getting something from the game than Steve Bruce’s mob.

Agree about the cross-roads FS. We’re definitely looking on the right path and the right additions over the summer should hold us in very good stead. Chelski need a bit of a refresh quite soon and could go through some flux for a few seasons with a new manager and some new faces. The Arse could lose Adebayor in the summer and if Wenger doesn’t find a holding midfielder I can’t see them challenging next season. You wonder where the Mancs will try and strengthen, probably someone to replace Tevez and Nani.

What I find promising is that the Mancs are almost at “saturation point” in terms of having “star” players in almost every position, including the bench… ie they don’t have a lot of glaring weaknesses (right-back perhaps) yet they aren’t streaks ahead of us. Any team with Ronaldo, Rooney, Berbatov, Tevez to choose from up front should by all rights be miles ahead of anyone else, but they’re not, in my opinion because the tramp just isn’t that good tactically and his midfield does not control games as well as it should. So where we can still improve – eg on the left, and backup striker for games without Torres – Man U might already be as good as they are going to get.

I think Arsenal fans are indeed worried. The manager, team and fans in the stadium all laid down and died last night. Wenger is usually on his feet argueing with the ref and 4th official. He had a look of resignation last night. A bit like Kenny during the 4-4 at Goodison Park when the team let in yet another calamitous goal. I’m wondering if Wenger has had enough. I also wonder if Arsenal as a club are willing to spend much money on players (transfers and salaries). Looking at it realistically surely Wenger would want to buy a defender, goalie and midfield player. Surely he’d have wanted the board to offer Flamini and the like the contracts they wanted. But Arsenal are a club with financial principles. They refuse to go into huge debt and seem unwilling to break any financial barrier until the stadium has been paid off. If you look at their net spend over the last 3 years it’s akin to Wigan Athletic. In the meantime Wenger might think “screw this” and walk. Who knows.

I’d rather Arsenal were a strong side because I can’t stand the other 2 members of the big 4. A Chav v Manc CL final? Like last year I will not be watching any of it.

FOR SALE:

38,000 Red and white flags, nearly new, only been waved for eight minutes.

Contact: Mr. A. Wenger, Emirates Stadium, London, N5

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Gerry, any word of the film blog?

I was wondering when the piss taking would start. I’ve just been listening to Ian Wright on the radio. Arsenal are getting leathered. Fuck ‘em. I’ve got no sympathy after that cowardly display.

Wenger was in all the papers for a couple of days, pleading with the fans to make the difference. He might dislike Liverpool (he’s made some very snide comments about us in the past, the prick), but he’d love to have the Kop behind his team. And support may seem trivial. Fans don’t score or stop goals. But last night there was nobody to pick the team up, on or off the field.

I felt really sorry for the young lad Gibbs. He looks a great prospect to me. Even when he slipped he very nearly retrieved the situation. And you could see the kid was disraught, but nobody – on or off the pitch – picked him up. What a shower. The lad’s what, 18/19? Shithouse firm them. Oh well, not my problem.

I agree Andy, Wigan will probably just roll over, but let’s hope Hull are still in trouble and have to fight. I think they are capable of getting a result if they get stuck in.

For all the star names the fact is, if you take the game to this man u team and get into them you can get a result.

They haven’t suffered a blip. They can cover it up all they like by saying that. But the fact is, teams were just rolling over for them all season and they still struggled. Look at all the close 1 – 0 wins, such as at Stoke.

But after we’d beat them we showed it could be done and Rafa told others how to do it. Villa would have pulled it off if MON hadn’t bottled it. And don’t forget how desperate the mancs looked in the weeks after we tonked them.

Does anybody think Fulham would have got that result if we hadn’t beat them and Rafa hadn’t put pressure on other managers to have a go? Of course not. And would have referees have given them decisions against them in the weeks following if Rafa hadn’t put pressure on them? Of course they wouldn’t.

Please don’t tell me that’s a guess or assumption. The proof was/is there for all to see.

But like I said after last night’s game.
The whole picture will become distorted again. The media is already back in it’s manc frenzy. Other managers and their teams will probably start to believe the mancs are invincible again and not even bother.
The mancs will start getting them 1 – 0 wins again against the teams that have already resigned themselves to defeat.
Referees will fall back into giving them every 50/50 decision and some outrageous ones.

It started again at Boro last weekend. I know they won comfortably in the end, but the mancs could have had 2 penalties given against them before they went 1 up.

And please don’t think I’m saying this to anyone in here personally but us fans shouldn’t fall into that trap. We should know better and we’ve seen the proof.

And I’ve said this before but… this is what LFC have to overcome. And despite the media, refs and other teams lying down, we are getting closer and closer. We will just have to do it alone with all the odds stacked against us, but that’s always been the case anyway.

Andy thanks for the sports science lesson in 252. Everydays a school day I guess. Dont know where I got the idea that an atheletes stamina and conditioning would improve, not depreciate, after mths of training 5 days a wk! Silly me with my simplistic basically wrong logic! I guess he wasnt conducting any preseason with Espanyol before signing. And I guess Dossenas blistering start due to a strong preseason and subsequent weakening….no wait…shouldent that be the other way round? Ooops! Silly me, lol!

Was you deprieved of attention when you was a kid Digger?

Trying not to take the bait on that sarcasm Digger… but mate you are just re-showing your ignorance on the subject. You can choose any isolated examples you like to try and prove your over simplified logic (yes, I’ll keep calling it that) – but it doesn’t change the fact that a strong pre-season is very important to a player’s fitness over a season. Whether or not it is the cause for Riera’s, or anyone else’s form is open to other factors and not my point. But the quality of their pre-season training IS a factor for every player… do some research mate, or admit you have no idea what you’re talking about. You really are one stubborn fucker aren’t you!

This is for everyone in the room except Digger…
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM

Don’t go in there Digger.
Digger I mean it… stop.
STOP!
Stop Digger, I’m not messing.
I said sto…..

Oh, you naughty bugger. Now go sit in your room and don’t do that again. You naughty lad, you.

Nah Fatty, just responding to Andys post to me. Is that ok with you? You dont mind if I respond do you? Wouldent wanna put you out or anything.

You should be in your room.

Can’t remember if it was in here or someone talking in real life, but the argument that as you work harder throughout the season you should be getting fitter instead of tireder would equate to as you run a marathon you don’t get more tired, after every mile you get fitter, so it becomes easier.

The petty sniping at one another is getting a bit much fellas. When did you all turn into a bunch of gossipy schoolgirls?

I know certain people have a history, but really, get past it and try to argue the merits of points instead of all the finger-pointing and name calling… it is well beneath most of you, and quite frankly, just plain petty!

Ignorance? Wow man. My tone is the one that gets questioned in here regularly but its alright for me to get verbally kicked from pillar to post and when if I respond in kind I’m just stubborn and dont know what I’m talking about! Classic. LB was right, this place gets more and more Orwellian everyday. Alright Andy, I guess all our questions on your much vaunted theory will be answered next season. Lets just hope Riera dosent get off to a slow start eh? Wouldent wanna disprove my ignorance would we?!

I always enjoy coming onto this site to read different opinions but over the last few days, I have not been on much because the bickering and sniping was not much fun.

Lads, for everybody’s elses sake – please give it a rest, call a truce, put a line in the sand and move on. And no more …

Petty my arse. It’s hilarious. I have no problem with Digger. He won’t give in though will you lad.
He’ll insist black is white ntil everyone gets fed up with it and then move onto the next argument Won’t you lad. And you had a peek didn’t you Dig. I know you couldn’t resist, you contrary little fucker, you.

Anywa… a crossroads is exactly where we are!

I think we were at one last summer also, for all 4 clubs.

For Arsenal: they (like uis) have had a lot of injuries to key players, lack squad depth, and need some steel… but anyone writing them off, (provided Wenger stays) is being foolhardy. Steel is well easier to find than the desequillabrante, which they already have.

Chavs: Big time crossroads… again. Last season they went with Scolari and look what happened. Will Hiddink stay is the BIG question for them… and who replaces him if he goes, perhaps an even bigger one? They could lose Drogba and Ballack (both cunts but game winners none the less) Malouda and a few others. And what happens on an ownership level, if they should win the CL?

Scum: Looks like they’ll lose Ronaldo, and fortunately the King’s ransom it will afford them, they appear to be pissing entirely away on Ribbery (surely most of you are laughing as hard reading that as I am typing it?) Ribbery is a helluva player, but he’s not a match winner in the same way the little cunt is. Tevez looks to be off also, and I don’t think they’ll get 30 mill for a player who wants out. Still 20 mill will buy a decent player or two.
But the thing about Scum is that I don’t see any real team unity there (these two players wanting away, perhaps a case in point?) They are all mercenaries of the highest order and are there because of some sort of “perceived gaurantee” that they will win silverware. When they don’t the boat will start rocking big time… (as it was at Chelsea before the Hiddink switch.)

For us: well we’ve all heard it before, and so its just one of the most annoying phrases a Reds fan can hear, but we are perhaps 2 pieces of the jigsaw away from taking back the crown. Silva and one other player in that class, plus two more decent squaddies and we’ll have enough depth (with all the fringe and youngsters stepping up a level) to press on. The only question mark is how many players rafa will be forced to move on.
I can’t really think of anyone I want to see leave, though I know a lot of you have short lists of names… (Babel, Lucas, Dossena, etc…) its just my personal opinion, that I’d like to see them stay and be given another season. If they are moved on, I don’t see it largely affecting us.
The only LFC downside to this summer in my opinion, is the loss of Sami’s experience and total-pro-LFC, professional-attitude backstage!

Then FS, argue the point with him… specifically… instead of calling him a contrary little fucker.
Its beneath you man, it really is.

You have a wealth of knowledge on all things LFC, but you’ve been throwing your weight around like a … er… Fat Scouser… since your return from sabatical.

And before you get all pissed off with that and set your sights on me, try to remember I was right out in front waving the “get back in here” banner in eveery blog, throughout your self-imposed exile.

While were on this subject, there was a bit of a coincedence today…
I was listening to the radio this morning. Gabrielle Marcotti came on there and was talking about Spanish football. He reckons there will be a huge clear out at Real Madrid when the season finishes. I wouldn’t mind grabbing that Schneider bloke. But that’s not me point…

He was talking about the players and how they have faded over the course of this season. Apparently the pre-season conditioning work at Real is none existent. There is no strength work. There is no endurance work. There is no aerobic work. It’s all about ball control and mainly consists of training drills, set piece work outs, five a sides and that. And apparently the players and Sergio Ramos (Who came in half through the season) have blamed their bad results on fatigue and not being properly conditioned for the season ahead.

Well my pal Digger, I know you will argue with all of us into you turn blue in the face, but will you believe Gab Marcotti, Sergio Ramos and the whole squad at Real Madrid?

And I hope to fuck I don’t get into any arguments in New York this year, but if I do, Digger, you contrary little fucker, I want you on my side.

And Aitch stop being so sensitive it was a fucking joke. I also passed the olive branch before going to bed 2 fucking nights ago. Which Digger decided to swerve.

As for the debate… Go to the guardian football page. Hiddink is leaving. He has also warned Chelsea that they have to win the CL this time round as they are getting too old to have many more chances.

Olive branch accepted, lets move on big fella. As the lads are suggesting the discourse is suffering and therefore the blog and thats not what we need. Fuck me what a goal. Right Barca lets go, game on

Is it fuck suffering. People should stop being so sensitive. I’ve only ever leathered one fella on here, Mook. It was fucking ages ago and he deserved it. He was a mong. And he only really got both barrels when he decided to have a go at me. Up till that point, I’d done me best to educate the lad. Not to worry. He’s probably in some manc chat room now, telling eveyone all Scousers are big fat bullys and getting patted on the back to fuck for it.

FFS, I grew up in The Boys Pen, I got me education and pissed on in the Kop. Sorry lads. I’m not the sensitive type. I’m 52. The PC brigade landed on me far too late for me to be “appropriate.”

I did try to tone me language down for Mr Jack Hill. And even though I sometimes look at me own f-ing and blinding in print and find it a bit embarassing, I am what I am.

Fuck me, I near burst into song there.

I tell you when the quality of this room suffered, when everybody start panicking and thinking Rafa should go. I was maybe a bit harsh before I left, but I even left out of respect for Gerry and the blog. I said many times I was on the verge of being really nasty so I walked instead. But thank fuck, people can now see what a few of us were promising would happen if we all just held our nerve and supported the manager and the team.

And that’s the first time, I’ve even resorted to saying… I told you so.

I’m not suggesting we all wear top hat and tails and act like we’re at a Command performance greeting the Queen, FS.

All I’m saying is… calling people names rather than arguing the points made, is becoming a bit more common this season, than in previous Kopblog seasons…
…and I’ve said it before, we OWE IT to Gerry to keep this place about discussing the points at hand…
…and reserve roastings for the complete nobheads that oocasionally find their way in here, rather than the lads who keep the place lively.

But do try to remember you weren’t the only one flying the gagonrafastackle flag, there were a handful of us that carried the fight to the enemy when you departed mate, so you don’t need to tell me how frustrated you got… I was one of a few voices, during your absence, right there in the thick of it in Dec/Jan/Feb.

Lads did we dodge a bullet with dani alves? Wasnt too impressed with him in last game, gave the ball away far too much, hes having another mare tonight so far. I dunno, is it just me or is he way over-hyped?

For the good of the blog, I’ll ignore most of your #283 Digger, but don’t go playing the sensitive card now. More than happy to email you some info or links on the “theory” of pre-season fitness training though.

Watching this game… you can see the chavs getting 2 or 3 goals on the break here. Barca will push and push and push, over-extend, and get hit on the break. Barca are already looking a little desperate – the dead give away is the snap shots blasted way off target. Pretty tough when the chavs have 5 or 6 defensive players in the box though.

I should’ve prepared myself but the diving is such a disgrace to watch though. The ref should’ve made his mark early by not paying them, but unfortunately it looks like one of those games where if you fall over, you get a free kick, end of story.

FS classic python.lol

Drogba is a fucking disgrace,though i’m not getting into that one. If chelsea make the final i hope he rolls everywhere an gets plenty of pens just to sicken them manc bastards.

Any of you boys in liverpool looking for an arts night with the missus there’s a play on tomorrow about a fella called mark radley. He’s a supporter who ended up watching the 2005 final in the italian presendent directors box. Its supposed to be fantastic you can find details on the name of the theatre is showing on the website for it – http://www.beatingberlusconi.com it uses plenty of scouse humour(as you would imagine) and does an overview of the city and what it means to be a liverpool supporter.

just wrote out something an it didnt show so just gonna giv a quick re-cap

Anyone who lives in liverpool or near by theres a play on tomorrow nite about a supporter called paul radley who ended up watching the 2005 final in the italian directors box with the presedent its suppose to be fantastic and uses plenty of scouse humour. You can find details of tickets an the theatre in which its on at there website –

http://www.beatingberlusconi.com

Alves can’t cross a ball to save his life… and who the hell is this Keita bloke? Looks like he’s way out of his depth.

Let’s play a game. If Chelsea are still 1-0 up, let’s count how many times Dropba goes to ground and requires attention in the last 20 minutes. Him and Malouda.

I just watched the first 15 minutes of the 2nd half and I only have 2 questions…

1. Why the fuck are Barca trying to outmuscle the Chavs?

2. Why are Barca seemingly afraid to take a shot inside of 25 yards, when the opportunity is presented to them?

chelsea are a disgrace to the game. what a horrendous dive from anelka to draw the red. unbelievable.

For fucks sake. So if barca do go through they’ll have to face the mancs without alves and abidal. Its just never ending for these cunts. Yeah Andy this Keita bloke is muck. How can a team that has scored 146 goals in 57 games this season not have a shot on target by the 70th min mark? Fuck this…

I tell you what I owe Aitch, fuck all. I can see now. I don’t really belong in here. It’s amazing.

Maybe it’s cultural differences, but it feels like banging me head on the wall. I’m sure with all the different backgrounds we all see things differently to me…
Something is said in jest, it gets jumped all over.
Important points get made, they get passed over.
Absolute drivel gets said, that gets passed over. Insults get slung, they get passed over.

Post after post gets made to explain something…
The point gets continually missed.
But something gets latched onto and on and on it goes until it gets swept under the carpet, only to resurface under a different guise sometime later.

I’m honestly baffled at times. I’m also tired of it like I said last night. A joke telling off – “you contrary little fucker” – was made three YES THREE (We can all shout in capitals) bloody days ago. A little wind up and tit for tat then followed. And on my way out, knowing how some sensitive souls would react – I made a point of clearing the air. That got ignored and now 3 days, or 70 odd hours later, it’s still rattling round like a, as Gerry would say, fart in a spacesuit.

I just can’t cope with the sensivity. My best friends and family greet one another with the likes of “Alright shithead. what the fuck do you want?” We all know it really means, “Hello lad. I love you.” That’s what I come from. That’s what I’m used to. I have spent more fucking time explaining this to you lads than I ever have with me own family and friends. Who would just get a swift “Fuck off and behave yerself. Yer daft bastid.”

In fact, I wouldn’t have gone through all this with me own wife. And she’d have just kicked me up the arse and thought I was going mental, if I’d explained and explained meself so many times. She’d be right an all. It’s becoming really tedious again.

Last time I bailed out I was even stalked and bollacked for speaking to other Scouse fellas me own age. Please don’t do it again.

Barca just don’t have a Plan B do they. 80 mins and not even a substitution, despite not even registering a shot on goal yet. All they’ve done is bring Messi more central, where it’s all clogged up and he barely touches the ball.

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees iniesta

Looks there plan A worked in the end Andy!

Jesus Christ whose the sensitive teenage American girl now?

Its not so long ago FS, that I gave you a “calm down, calm down” and you went off on me like a fuckin ballistic missile… all about how I’d get a Liverpool Kiss if I said that to you in person.

You’re not the only one from Liverpool mate, or the only one with a wealth of footballing knowledge.
And what’s funny about your above comment is that beacuse of that like-minded background, you and I agree on the majority of points LFC.

But I have the audacity to question that knowledge and experience and I’m somehow “culturally different”???

All I’m saying is that I’m seeing a lot of your posts in recent weeks often contain the phrase “I’m tired of explaining this” as though the rest of us are schoolboys who should hang on your every word. If you think that criticism is wide of the mark, then so be it, but we’re at 300 posts here and lots of them were you and Dig trading personal handbags at 5 paces.

And BECAUSE you are an “older respected statesman” of the blog, there were a few others who simply jumped ont he bandwagon and took swipes at him as well.
None of which had anything to do with the pointhe was trying to argue.

Surely you see that point FS. You waded into the debate Dig and I had about Arshavin a blog or two ago. No name calling, just wittling the argument down to the points we were each trying to make, over the course of about 10-20 posts, without a single case of name calling, or IQ, or integrity questioned.

Even Andy did it (and I’m sorry Andy, coz I actually agree with you) in his dispute of the pre-season training/fitness argument.
There’s plenty that can be said in support of your argument Andy, no need to simply suggest that Digger doesn’t know shit from shinola!

If you don’t see that, or even if you just disagree with it, thats fine too. Just thought I’d point out something I’ve observed is all.

Hard to say Barca deserve it, they were all huff and no puff tonight… but hard to feel sorry for a team that defends for 180 minutes either – especially when you look at the complete lack of class they are showing in defeat, surrounding the ref. Disgusting, look at Drogba go. Absolutely disgusting.

On that performance I’m not full of confidence that they’ll beat the Mancs, but at least I’ve got someone to cheer for in the final now!

well chelsea deserved at least one penalty, but given the bogusness of barca’s red card, and chelsea’s general phony football with diving and elbows galore, it serves them right.

to be honest, i thought that ronaldo would have destroyed alves if he played in the final. he is not a defender at all, and you need someone that is a solid marking back to cover ronaldo…someone like arbeloa. remember how well arbeloa did marking ronaldo this year (and last year) and messi in 2007? i think it might be a blessing in disguise for barcelona to be without alves. abidal will be missed much more, but they will have puyol back and henry as well.

Ahahaahhahahahahaha! There is a God! Come on barca!

Loved drogba losing it in the end. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bloke.

YNWA

chelsea’s behaviour was shocking to say the least. ballack almost tackled the ref after he didnt call a hand ball, and after the game cech, terry, ballack, lampard, drogba, etc were surrounding him in his face. horrendous display of sportsmanship. disgraceful. drogba should be banned from europe for 3 games for that.

Aitch… I see the point you’re trying to make but please don’t suggest like I just waded into a debate, decided to gang up on Digger, and insinuate he was a moron or something without making any valid points. I’m more than happy to give a sports science lecture about the benefits of pre-season training, but it’d bore the shit out of everyone. Instead I gave a short summary of why it’s important and Digger stubbornly refused to accept any of it. I didn’t mean it as an insult at the time, nor do I mean it as an insult now when I re-state that I don’t believe he knows what he is talking about IN THAT AREA. That doesn’t mean I think he’s an idiot or something, I’m sure there’s a lot of things he knows a lot about, just pre-season fitness training isn’t one of them.

Aah for the hand of GOD….
Well done Barca -Atleast they will give the Manc’s a good go. Puyol will definitely make a difference. As Andy says, we now have a team to cheer on.

Yeah bigtime Alec. Alves was dreadful tonight, keita too, toure skinned time and time again also. Barca really fortunate to go through but at least we can now watch the final and have someone to really root for against the mancs!

Aitch

I was one of those who took a swipe at Digger and to be honest it isn’t the first time I have felt the need to take a contrary position.
However I wrote a post questioning his comments on Riera because I felt they were unfair to the player and to be honest just wrong.
But please don’t get the idea that I am sitting on some sort of team of people who are picking on Digger.
FS says a lot of things I agree with but I do have my own opinions, but Digger does have a tendancy to simplify things and as I said before talk in black and white terms.
To be fair Digger replied to my post and was polite and gave a little ground, maybe some of us just rub each other up the wrong way.

I would rather we kept the debate civilized, its one of the things that makes this blog worthwhile apart from Gerry’s fine writings, so how about we just put this one on the back burner and make an effort as a group to keep the sarcasm and name calling to a minimum

My name is Rafa and I have to tell you some facts. Anelka dived and Ballack was trying to zonal mark the referee. That was his idea but it was difficult.

My apologies Andy, if I insinuated that. I included you into a debate of points with FS. Easy for misunderstanding to take place.

Like I said, when Dig and I debated Arshavin a few blogs ago, I simply kept refining my point to him, he did the same to me. In the end I saw some of what he was trying to say and he likewise my points.

I played competitively (albeit at amateur and U.S. college level) for 30 years and coached very successfully at schoolboy level, so as I said, I agree with the points you were making about triaining. But giving those credentials as a “fuck you, you’re a numpty if you don’t agree with me” is just never gonna get us anywhere.

But what’s interesting to me about this whole comment section is that Digger’s original statement was that Riera had a good 1st half of the seaosn and a crap 2nd half.
Then people started arguing the merits of selling him and him not being crap and surplus to requirements… which wasn’t Digs point, but because personal attacks accompanied the argument, he got drawn into arguing things that he didn’t even say.

So in the interest of fairness. Dig, make sure you stick to your original argument mate.

I used our Arshavin deabte as an example coz the same thing almost happened. An argument about whether or not his 4 goals against us were the easiest chances that would ever fall to him, somehow got twisted into either: 1 Arshavin is crap and not worth a penny, or 2 Arshavin is the 2nd coming. Just crazy. And he and I then had to go through a half dozen posts to get back to defining what our original arguments were.
Mine: they were the easiest 4 chances he’ll ever get.
Digs: despite that he finished them all very well.

He saw my point, I saw his point. And to me, that is what this blog should be all about… otherwise we might just as well be arguing with teenagers on the official MBs.

THANK YOU BARCA FOR PROVING THAT JUSTICE STILL EXISTS!

I didn’t dare watch the game for fear of puking from all the disgust. First there was Anelka’s blatant dive that led to Barca’s red card, and then there’s fucking Diving Dogbreath.

But then things started to swing when the ref denied FOUR penalty attempts for the Chavs. If it were any other team, I would be crying injustice, but in this instance, I’d say SERVE YOU FUCKING DIVING BASTARDS RIGHT!

4 Champions League semi-finalists, only 2 actually slugged it out to fight for a place in the final, while 1 simply dropped dead and the other 1 strolled in by pure fucking luck.

Anyway, no matter how much we’ve dissed the pathetic Gooners, with Arshavn back, I hope they beat the crap out of these demoralised Chavs in the coming Champions League semi-final this Sunday.

That was sort of my point 5 year. We all make sweaping statement about players from time to time… and any sweaping statement is always gonna draw argument form those who have the contrary view.

I believe Dig backed off from his original black and white statement of Riera’s 2nd half of the season was crap.

As FS pointed out, he’s been an integral cog in the team throughout the 2nd season, but let’s be honest, his 2nd half was less than stellar, and was not as good as his 1st half.
That doesn’t mean sell him. That doens’t mean he’s shit. It’s just an objective observation of his overall contribution.

I took Digs point to be that we need to see more from him next season? But its funny that LB actually subsequently suggested Riera be sold/replaced and hardly anyone batted a fuckin eyelid, let alone took him on.
What’s that about?

Finally, we can sing this fucking song once again:

youtube.com/watch?v=WRzjc2N-rIU

FUCK OFF, CHELSEA FC
YOU AINT’T GOT NO HISTORY
5 EUROPEAN CUPS, AND 18 (19?) LEAGUES
THAT’S WHAT WE CALL HISTORY

Anyway… how’d I get myself drawn into all that bollocks. I need ot mind me own fuckin biz.

What I need to be saying is… HAHAHAHAHA!

Chelsea deserved what they got. And Drogba needs suspending for that shit at the end. The sooner he’s fucked off to another league the better!

And did anyone notice that there was a Chav player right in front of Iniesta and the stupid fucker ducked out of the challenge?
I mean are you fuckin serious. 2 minutes left int he game and all you have to do to progress is throw yourself in front of the shot… and you fuckin duck out of the way?
You fuckin PUSSY!

I say that coz I see it every week and it sickens me, considering how much money these cunts make and how much is on the line.
Shit I took so many rockets in the face, in the balls, in stomach, to prevent a goal, I’m surprised I’m not a crooked-nosed, punch drunk, inhaler using lunger, who can’t have kids!
And I never got paid!

I think it represents everything that is wrong with today’s professional footballer… and makes you understand how Tommy Smith can be rated so low in the “hardest men of football” poll.

Lads, if i could say my spin on things…

I think reading the posts what is getting up FS` big fat hole is that Digger`s points are made with some sarcasm and arrogance.It looks to me that the way he answers peoples posts with all these sarcatic questions and answers is showing some disrespect.

Fs on the other hand sems to use the seen it,done it,wore the t-shirt card from time to time.Don`t get me wrong FS,i love reading yours post and you are indeed strongly knowledgable on the game and the liverpool way.I respect your opinions very highly as i do a lot of lads in here and your humour is second to none.

I for one do enjoy the debates in here but some in here might have more knowledge about the game or be more intelligent but we all will have an opinion right or wrong,they should be respescted within reason of course because i know from time to time we get invaded by sad people.

Peace to all.

Aitch

I think its the language used, it just winds me up when one of our players is refered to as crap.

We had this with Kuyt and we have had it with Lucas,Dossena, and Ngog
The former has proved his point, and Lucas is improving, as for the other 2 how do you call players when they have had so few games
When somebody says we should play Babel instead of Riera because of this that or the other , thats an opinion, when somebody says Riera is crap, thats just over the top.
But as I said to be fair to Digger his responses to my posts, on this occasion were polite so let it go
As for LB I did pick up his point in post #201

I think Digger is right about dodging the Alves bullet. Don’t get me wrong – I think he’s a top player, but Christ did we save 10m by getting in Arby.

The one major thing that destroys Chelsea’s accusation of ref favouritism is the small detail of reducing Barca to ten men – and a bit unjustly too. So I won’t hear it from Chelsea fans.

I was disappointed back in the day when Craig Johnston named his daughter Chelsea. I don’t know why I remember that.

Great Day and a great night. I’m sure Chvski would have put it up to the mancs physically …. but I am bloody delighted. A footballing team beat that band of musclebound, cheating mercenaries and the best of all was Drogba making a complete moron of himself, once again.

Now this could be the beginning of the end for Roman indeed.

For my tuppence worth on the FS Digger to-do. When I read your original post FS I laughed and read it out to Mr’s Dougle… I thought it was a good slag. I just skipped the next 375 posts back and forth. I think it’s age FS !

Now back to celebrating. May 6th I love you !

Right I’m off to bed, but lets put this straight first. Never sleep on an argument as they say…

1: Not being a smart arse, I’m just going to do it like this so me points don’t get jumbled. (See having to appologise already).

2: I said Riera should be given a pat on the back for his excellent contribution.

3: Digger, like he often enjoys to, pulls me up on that. I defend the statement and say “Contrary little Fucker.” (Sorry to the sensitive sorts, I talk like that to me grandaughter. Who just tells me to behave. She’s 4. So, I didn’t imagine calling someone who enjoys an argument and often promotes them “A contrary fucker” would cause such huge offense to grown men).

4: Me and Digger partake in a bit of mutual wind up, which we often do as Digger does enjoy having a go at old Fatty. And before that gets jumped on, lets have it straight… Digger even stalked me when I left here.

5: Realising what can happen in here, I hold out the olive branch before I go to bed.

6: The olive branch gets swerved and lashed.

7: We spend the next day hashing over the same old shite. I’m bored of it by then. I take the piss and try to make light of it – even if some of you see it as too heavy handed.

8: We all discuss last night’s game. The argument gets forgotten. We move on, or so I thought.

9: I come in today. Don’t even think about that all that bollacks. Make a few very serious points discussing the future of LFC, our 3 closest rivals and the premiere league in general.

10: Some decent footy chat takes place.

11: Digger comes in. Ignores all of todays chat. Dives right back onto a post made at least 12 hours earlier – a post and poster that he’d already taken a pop at.

12: I try me best to just have a laugh. Make a couple of piss take remarks, even put up a video up (Which makes me point in a humorous manner)for the contrary friend of mine to look at.

13: Aitch, you dive in to play referee, when there is nothing to referee.

14: I then explain meself and say I’m surprised at the sensitivy. (Why I’m still shocked by that I don’t know. Must be going daft in me old age). But that is the only point I make about anyone else. Nothing personal is mentioned.

15: I’m told off for my demenour. I’m told me post are demeaning of others. I’m actually bollacked for saying “I’m tired of this.” When the only time I’ve said that is when I’m talking about being forced to explain meself or going through this sort of shite – not football matters.

16: In fact, I constantly feel I have to say “It’s only my opinion and it’s no more important than anyone elses.”

17: I am truly tired of this. It happens regular as clockwork.

18: I’m going to say something I’ve avoided… I’ve never came across such a sensitive gang of grown men in me life. My own fucking poster name takes the piss out of meself. In fact, I constantly take the piss out of meself and constantly allow others to do it without biting back.

19: The only time I pull people up is when they say something about LFC the club, the team or the manager that I think is out of order.

20: I will always do that. I do that face to face with anyone and not just from the distant safety of hyper space.

21: I also pull people up when I consider they aren’t acting in the right manner for a Liverpool fan. No doubt that will be seen as concieted. IT’S NOT! It’s a duty. There is a tradition and history of supporting at this club that should be followed by all who sign up for it. I was taught it. I passed it onto others as I got older. It’s what keeps us from descending into organised Karaokes and free plastic flags. So like it or not, I will continue to do that.

9 Thousand 47 and twenty 11: What I won’t do is continue to explain meself.
I’M TIRED OF IT! This is no 3 days old. My grandaughter would slap me silly if she knew I was still in here explaining meself to grown men.

And if all else fails Aitch, follow your own advice…
“Anyway… how’d I get myself drawn into all that bollocks. I need ot mind me own fuckin biz.”

Night night

PS… I told a lie……

I don’t say Fucker to me grandaughter. She’d probably glass me

FS, is that before or after she finishes the pint?

Fuckinell, I go through all that and it gets topped in about 9 words.

Nice one, MTMMC

Watched match tonight on RTE and they were waxing lyrical about what a fantastic match it was. I didn’t see it. One team defending with ten men and hoping for a counter attack to lead to a penalty, and the other playing pass the ball (but don’t shoot at goal).

I don’t think Anelka dived for the red card…I think he fell over himself. I can’t remember but did Anelka himself appeal? Still a terrible decision by the ref.
Going back to what I said above I think the result was deserved because Anelka and Drogba didn’t take their chances. Going in one on one with the keeper they dilly dallied; not waiting for the keeper to move but rather hoping for a faint touch and then hopefully a red card and penalty. They had the chances to finish Barca off and didn’t take them. It wasn’t all the referee’s fault. Yes, one or two of them could have been penalties but in the end football won.

Now we wait and see if UEFA take any action after the way the players reacted at end.

And Alves had a shocker. I think one good cross, and boy does that boy moan.

I’ve been on night shifts all week and looking for a good wallpaper for my desktop…after tonight’s match I’ve got my answer. I’m away to google images of ‘JT’ crying.

MTMMC

Imagined you were going to Rome?

Talk to Frank.

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Return flights to Barcelona – £600
Train to London – £50
Tickets for a two-legged semi-final in the Champions League – £120

Getting to see John Terry cry yet again live in person? Priceless.

Some things in life cost money, for everything else there’s stoppage time.

It seems I am online on my own tonight…

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i think barca should challenge the red card on abidal…it was clearly not a foul. that being said, i can’t see it being overturned. chelsea as a club should be severely fined and ballack, terry, and lampard should be fined as well.

drogba should be fined and banned for several games. disgraceful behavior. and hiddink defends their actions saying as long as they dont touch the referee he understands their actions. unbelievable. what is football coming to?

I think the RESPECT campaign mustn’t apply to Europe. In fact I’m not sure it applies to Chelsea at all.

Just come across these sites have a look at them for a laugh.
ttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Cristiano_Ronaldo
ttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/FIFA_09:_Glory_Hunter_Edition#Additional_user-controlled_celebration
YNWA

Just noticed an error in my #317, I meant to say Champions League 3rd Place Play-Off between the Goons and Chavs this Sunday.

Have just done the rounds in the online editions of the papers.

Fooking unbelievable amount of times the “phantom goal @ Anfield” was brought up to highlight chelsea’s poor fortune in this tourney.

Incredible that virtually every hack & pundit has fallen towards repeating jose’s gripes when it was a nailed on pen & sending off fer Cech in that semi.

As much as it may look like a UEFA-backed conspiracy, sending off Abidel wasn’t to Barca’s advantage was it?

Tough fooking shite, chelsea. U r never gonna win ole Big Ears, so u best get yer pix taken when visiting Anfield.

Not been in for a while but do read all the posts, keep up the work fellas.

Funny old game football, except today it was just plain fucking hillarious. Dogbreath should get a nice little ban for his outburst and I hope bollock does to for his carry on.

The tit for tat does get a little long winded, I think say your opinion, debate it but there comes a time when you need to just forget the whole thing.

Fatty, I am sure I am not alone in saying this but I enjoy your comments and unwavering support of LFC and for keeping the LFC way in tact, all that sentimental shit aside heres hoping a good result this week and lets get the game won early.

If it was Liverpool I would be crying bloody murder at the ref but it was Chelsea so I’m gonna go ahead and send the ref a bottle of bubbly. Hoping for Barca to not just beat Manure but to hammer them in the final. Not sure if we can sneak past manure for the league but it’s been fun keeping them honest for so long. Chelsea ending the season trophyless is also nice to see. Normally I don’t care about other teams winning what not but the Drogs and Bollocks of the footballing world really piss me off. Oh yeah, Cashley cole too. Probably the only player I like on the Chelsea team is Anelka.
Anyway, good luck to Man City this weekend….and Arsenal too! As for Liverpool? We don’t need luck to beat Westham..:)

Wow lads, you went at it big time in my absence!

Aitch, just for the record I wouldn’t sell Riera but I’d like to see a better player signed to play in his position and for Riera to be the quality back up. I’d like to keep most if not all of the players that are at the club. But I want an improved team/squad even more so if we have to sell in order to upgrade there are indeed players I’d like sold. Obviously those players are not Torres, Gerrard and Alonso.

I’m really glad Barca went through. Didn’t see the match but I believe Barca will give the mancs a game. I reckon they’ll find it easier against the mancs than they did against Chelsea. The Chavs are designed to beat teams like Barca and Arsenal. Big, strong, powerful, good from set pieces, defend in numbers and defend very well. The mancs let you play more and so I think Barca will get more joy. They’ll certainly attack the mancs and thats what we all reckon is their weakness – teams getting at them as ourselves, Fulham and Porto did in the 2-2 draw. Hopefully Barca have Henry back so their midfield and strike force is at full strength. Abidal’s suspension is a blessing in disguise. They’ll miss Alvez but it shouldn’t be too much of a blow.

What’s pur team news looking like for the West Ham match? I’m a little worried about this one and therefore am not predicting 7-0.

Back to footy….
How fucking funny was that?
I only seen the high(low)lights on Sly News. I don’t think I’ve laughed so much since we trounced the mancs.

Dropba… doing his absolute best to displace The Ladyboy as the world’s most dispicable person.
John Teary…. at it again.
Bollax… running after the referee faster than I’ve seen him chase the ball all season.
Cashley… Oh what a lovely picture he made at the end.
Lumplard… whinging to the cameras.
Guuuuusssyyy Gussy Gander… a seemingly decent man brought down to the level of the gutter by defending the disgusting billionaires.
The Media… getting all moral. HA! The fucking nerve of them.

A very very good night for football and justice.

Only drawback, Barca loosing both fullbacks for the final. As far as I know, they played last without their 2 first choice centre halves. I don’t know if that changed by kick off, but that’s the last info I had. As I said, I only seen the lowlights.

Hilarious how Sky tried to beep Dropba and beeped the disgrace but kept in the fucking. The little I seen was a comedy from start to finish.

But could that mean Barca facing the mancs without their first choice defence? Wouldn’t surprise me one bit, seeing their facing the other jammy bastards. They will defo be without the 2 fullbacks though. Red cards in europe can only be rescinded if they’ve been given in mistaken identity – to the wrong fella like.

To save money me and a few of the lads was going to book for Rome before the Chelsea game. The prices of flights and hotels shoot right up the nearer the final gets. I’m sorry we decided not to now. I would have been there supporting Barca as much as LFC. (Well, nearly).

But it’s still on…
Title – Us.
FA Cup – Them (Everton)
CL – Barca.

I’d be up the bookies now to stick a tenner on it just for a bit of interest but I know I’d only mocker it up. But how sweet would that be.

But I tell you something… I’d say Chelsea are in real trouble an all now.
Chelsea… Chelsea fucking Pensioners. Ha!
I think there’s something like 18 players in their squad over the age of 30.
Who’s going to spend Roman’s billions to replace the old guard with the next generation?
Is Roman going to give them that much to spend?
How long will it take them to settle under a new manager?

Chelsea…. nothing but Newcastle with money.

I know it’s wishful thinking.
I know I’m big time biased.
I know we’ve got our own off field problems.
I know it won’t happen overnight.
I know Arsenal could solve a lot of their problems by just spending a few bob.
But will they?

To put it in a nutshell – it seems to me out of all the top clubs, LFC is the team that is making all the right moves and moving in the right direction. And if we make the right moves in the summer we can get ahead of the pack.

Good times only going to get better.

Oh, and michealthomasmademelaugh last night.

PS… I bet Rafa hasn’t been off the phone to his friends at Barcelona. He’ll be sending them his dossiers and faaacht! sheets. He’ll be telling them what a drunken bastard mr ferguson is and how to get under his blotchy skin. He’ll probably be sending them a voodoo doll of Shrek an all. Honest, I bet he’ll be right onto them and doing his best to help them in anyway he can.

And LB, nevermind Gerrard and Torres, even Rafa, if there’s a better option you get them if you
can. Of course in cases like them there isn’t a better option. But you get me drift. And I agree, Barca are well capable of giving the mancs a game. People are already gift wrapping the double for the mancs. I hope they are starting to belive their own hype again an all. You know the Ladyboy is. Rooney aided by a few lesser players, who put in the effort too, have dragged them along in his/their wake for weeks. They can still come unstuck.

Faith restored, there IS a god!

It was better than bedding two women at the same time to see them graceless fuckers from West London dumped from the Champions Leauge. I hate them!

Now let’s hope Barcelona can finish the job in Rome.

As for LFC, It’s looking like Alonso will miss the West Ham game, so Lucas will probably step in.

Torres and Masch appear to be ready for this game, by all accounts. A close encounter? I think so, yes. West Ham 1 Reds 2.

Am I the only one worried about the fact that it is barca that plays against the mancs in the final? I know the mancs do not defend like chelski, but barca have not come up against opponents as effective and quick as the mancs. I really doubt barca are good enough to beat the mancs. They were absolutely shite against a stubborn chelski, and I know the complexity of the game will change when the mancs are their opponent, but I just feel that this barca are way too slow to do any damage to the mancs, and barca are terrible at defending. Hmmm….
I would be soooo gutted if the mancs, or rather, fungusface gets his hands on the Big Ear.

BTW, I think DAgger bloke is a bit bonkers; now he is all smiles after securing the contract, but his mood swing is too much for me to fathom. Glad that a talent like him is staying but lawdy, lawdy. May be I am bit too old fashioned-like, but I just can’t stand this childish behaviour…

Hyde read my post mate. The chavs are the perfect spoilers and Hiddink is a master tactician. You’ll see better from Barca in the final against a more open Manc team. I’m going for a 3-2 to Barca.

As for Agger being childish and a bit bonkers. It doesn’t show when he plays so hopefully he can stay injury free and mature into a world class centre half for us.

Mornin’ boys. Well at least I might watch the final now. I’ll have someone to support. I actually think Chavski would have a better chance of beating Manure but I dislike both so … Now I agree Barca will at least play ball and attack, given they have no defense it’s a prudent option. It will be interesting to se how the Mancs approach this one. They’ll win it if they are aggressive and positive I reckon, they are a better team with more options, but there is a chance they may fall off a little and try “tactics” … Please do it and make my day. C’mon Barca !!

As for this weekend, once again it’s win or bust for us and I like this. It’s putting the team and club under constant pressure and that can only bode well for us in the season to come… as well as (miracles) maybe sneaking this one too.

I nearly forgot why I don’t visit the TIA forums, there are actually people there who are actually moaning about how the Scum is going to have it so easy in the final now that the Chavs are out, and questioning why everyone else is happy about it.

And don’t get me started at some idiot proclaiming that this year “was” our best chance, and Rafa’s not gonna get such a chance again. I promptly stuck a stick up his arse. Remind me to stick another “shit in a stick” down his throat once Rafa finally wins no. 19, be it this year or next.

FFS at the negativity of some people there. I think I can understand how FS feels when dealing with such people.

I agree the mancs will play more open and barca will get a bit more room to play. I’ll be a wee bit worried about their defence. Let’s be honest, the mancs are some machine when allowed to go forward. But if Barca get at them, play that lovely fast attacking football of theirs – and don’t try to walk the ball in – hit them fast and hard they can cause the manc defence all sorts of problems. Remember it’s not as good as the media had us believe it is. We proved Evra hates to be ran at – Job for Messi there. Right back is a bit of a problem – toss up between a kid, an aul-man or a mediocre player. Centre halves, can be split and panicked into mistakes, don’t like being hit at speed by pacey attackers bursting through and definetely not quite as great as the media tried to make out.

No walk over for Barca of course not. But it’s do-able. Ask Fulham.

And stop these terrible rumours about Agger. The lad’s a very stable young man. He’s kind to animals and loves his uncle

Oh, and what I originally came into say…
LFC Legends v All Stars Hillsborough charity match is on ITV 4 next Thursday at 4.

2-0 to the Reds on Saturday with goals from Torres (17) and Gerrard (62).If Alonso is unfit, Rafa should go with Masch,SG,Benny and Aurelio in midfield and put Agger and Skrtel at the back.A Manc treble would be calamitous.

Kinny – funny enough that you mention it. I would have felt the same way about RAWK but I have been following the “Steven Cohen Lies” thread and there has been some really fantastic posts and work been done by supporters there.

Sorry Gerry ! Here is my “home site” ok!

But it is interesting. I think once you get beyond the easy sloganeering on any of “our” sites you can find some really insightful and
well thought out posts and actions as well.

to steal a saying my brother uses.

Drogba is not an Asshole, he’s a Total Asshole!

2-1 Liverpool.

Benayoun (19)
Torres (53)

PS… Got the time wrong in me last post.
The legends game is on ITV4 at 7pm (Not 4) a week today. I know a lot (If not most of you lads) won’t be able to access that. But I’m sure there’ll be a stream somewhere. I’ll find one and put it up nearer the game. There well worth watching these legend games. Good laugh. Funny to see the lads now their getting on a bit. They usually have a few youngsters like Billy Lidell to do the legwork for the aul fat fellas.

What is it about when people think they know Agger? I see pretty much most things about LFC, and I can’t even think that I’ve heard him speak – let alone how his mood swings. Sometimes certain rumours can just get out of control.

Lads, have at look at this link. Stick the ‘H’ on there…

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Aiyic, take it from me, honestly, Agger’s, shall we say… a wee bit unconventional. But he’s a fantastic footballer. He’s one of ours. I don’t think anyone in here’s slagging the lad off. Quite the opposite, I think everyone’s really happy he finally looked longingly into Rafa’s eyes, got told how much he was loved and put pen to paper.

Waiting for me grandaughter bit bored, so I’ve got Talk Shite on the radio. The absolute arrogance of everyone on there, presenters, guests and callers, were just about to have me throwing the radio at the wall…
Chelsea was robbed.
No wonder they went mad.
They was entitled to.
Barca are shit.
Man u will do them.
Man U only have to turn up.

Honest, I was about to lash the radio up the road. A Scouser gets on. Fucking funny. One of the presenters of the show, Hawksby and Jacobs, is a chav fan. I don’t know which one. I don’t take that much notice of their drivel.

The Scouse lad just wrecked his head. It was hilarious. You could feel the steam coming off the chav. The Scouser just kept dead calm and wound the fucker up to death….
“Yeah. But the better team won. They was the only team that played football. They was the only team who wanted to win it. They was the best team over the two legs. It was a victory for proper football.”

So, bloody funny. The fella practically screamed FO at him when Scouse said…
“You’re still crying about the ghost goal mate. So I expect no different about last night.”

The chav was moaning and moaning about the ref. So, this really drove him mental and he just slammed the phone down to get shut of the lad…

“My lad asked me for a Barcelona shirt this morning. I don’t know what one to get him. The home shirt. The away shirt. Or….. the referees shirt!”

Gerrinderscousela’. The presenter fella was near crying. Must be something in that Chelsea water. Turns men into tarts. Funny as fuck.

Oh well, She Who Must Be Obeyed Mark II is here. So, off out. Later lads.

There was an outbreak of swine flu in west london last night, apparently chelsea fans are as sick as pigs.

so the mancs are requesting UEFA to take away fletcher’s red card on compassionate grounds. gimme a f***ing break. oh, so sorry you made a poor tackle in the box…its ok, we will remove the rules of the game for you because after all, what are rules of the game when the mancs are concerned. if his red is taken away, then there really has to be an investigation into the mancs dealings off the pitch. it would be a mockery of the game.

from there you would HAVE to take away abidal’s red…anelka clearly trips over his own feet. unbelievable. still, this is all ridiculous. uefa is not supposed to change referee decisions except for the case of mistaken identity. but who cares, its fungus face and the mancs. still, we all know how much uefa likes the premier league teams (sarcasm)…i can see them telling them to FO.

If I could just ask FS to explain exactly what he meant when having a go at digger…only kidding.

Got to say I’m absolutley made up the chav’s got knocked out and in the 92nd minute. I was in the pub(I live in London) it was full of plastic chavs and this is what makes me laugh, last 15 mins some were outside chatting, some were inside chatting. On the 90th minute mark they broke out into a chorus of oo are ye, oo are ye. What a classy bunch they are. Now Barca finish the job please against the scum.

I think Barca are better set up to beat the mancs than the chav’s who were humiliated by manure earlier on. Barca will get an open game which will suit them much more. I actually fancied the chav’s to beat barca.

Isn’t it a lot sweeter to have the chav’s “robbed” like they were last night, I am hoping for same thing in the final.

Liverpool to win the Leauge, Barcelona to win the CL, and Everton to win the F.A Cup.

What price do you think I would get on that nice little treble then? 100-1? 125-1?

It’s both hilarious and sickening to see the difference on how things are being reported at the moment by London-based chav-loving media, and the rest of the world.

The rest of the world are quite rightly calling the behaviour of the Chelsea players an absolute disgrace. But check out some of this CRAP from the BBC:

“Police in Ovrebo’s home city of Oslo said they would be vigilant over any threats made against the referee.

An Oslo police spokesman said: “We are watching closely what is being posted on the internet. Anything we believe would threaten his personal safety will be taken seriously.”

Errrm, who mentioned death threats?? YOU did BBC.

This again just makes me so proud yet again to be an LFC fan. You just wouldn’t see this crap from our club, our players, our captain, our manager.

Roman’s billions still can’t buy you class, chavs.

Here’s a good one….
ttp://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N164285090507-1143.htm

Seems our captain and the lads feel the same way as ourselves. And nice to see another Rafa myth – can’t man manage, players don’t feel close to him – getting smashed by one of our own.

Steve… I was in the bookies earlier, took my grandaughter for a bet and a pint. Just about managed to drag meself out of there without asking for the odds on that. As I said, I’d be sure to put the mockers on it.

Yeah FS, but I have to say, the lad is defo bonkers; a long time since I’ve seen a Red like his sort. But what a fantastic footballer danny is.

As for Barca, I did read your post LB, but I just don’t think that barca are that good or fast enough. And they are also a bunch of wimps, which makes them even worse. What they should do is play messi up front and put eto on the flanks; that would definitely cause vidic some problems, and the mancs full-backs will not be able to cope with someone like eto’o towering onto them from deep. I only hope you’re right.

Good interview that isn’t it, FS. Shame though that that wasn’t given to the BBC or something and onky to LFC magazine. The rest of the manc loving media will ignore it.

Hyde, Barcelona are good trust me. I’m not saying they will definitely beat the mancs but they have a good chance. They squeezed through against a very powerful Chavski side with 3 centre backs out and Henry injured. Their strongest midfielder had to play at centre back, they had a player sent off and managed to squeeze through despite going a goal down early. Shows me they have a bit of character to go with the silky skills.

youtube.com/watch?v=I9h9AFTiHWo

Dogbreath, you and Winky Wanker are the least qualified to call people a FUCKING DISGRACE. Still, it’s very funny to see that piece of shit go totally mental.

(Loved how they beeped out “disgrace” but forgot to beep out “fucking”. LMAO )

And who the fuck does Ferguscum think he is? He thinks he can run the roost over UEFA like the does over the FA? If Fletcher can get his red rescinded, then how about Abidal? Talk about fucking double standards from these scum. Good luck, Barca, you’re gonna need ALL OF THEM against these seemingly lucky bastards. Sooner or later, their luck WILL run out.

Oh yeah, I watched the tape of the match, in some countries, football matches provide bilingual audio functions where you get to choose to listen to English or your native language.

I normally listen to English, since the audio is better, and the commentary quality is just much better than the guys from my city, though it means I’d have to occasionally put up with all the Sly Sports crap as well as Andy fucking Gray.

This time, I decided to watch the Iniesta goal in both English and in my native language, and the difference could not have been different.

In English, Andy Gray was obviously moaning in dismay, but in my native language, the commentators went absolutely ballistic “OH MY GOD WHAT A GOOOOAAAAALLLLL!!!!!!!” No prizes for guessing whose side each was secretly backing. BTW, the local commentators were also quick to voice their disgust at Dogbreaths constant antics, so they had no sympathy for the Chavs being out. It is, as they say, a victory for football.

I know what you mean FS, I’d love to have a tenner on that treble coming up, but I am a bit of a jinx when it comes to the bookies so I will stay well clear.

The value in the treble is obviously LFC winning the Prem, which every man and his dog will now consider an extremely long shot.

The other two are two horse races, but I think we could get a good price on Everton winning the cup inside 90 minutes………… Tempting, isn’t it?

I meant that every man and his dog (especially among bookmakers) apart from LFC fans will consider our chances as extremely slim.

For my part, I am refusing to give up yet. O.K, the Mancs seem to be winning every game at the moment, and I agree that 3 draws for them is more likely than 2 defeats, but hey, you never know!

Man.City want seventh place, so do West Ham. An interesting weekend in store. Come on you Redmen!!!

UEFA to announce that Mr Ovrebo will be refereeing the final.
Fungus’ head to explode.
Scum lose their nut.
We win the Prem on GD.

Hmmmm?

I remember FS saying this could be the pivitol weekend in the title race.

Lets hope your crystal ball says 2-0 reds 2-1 citea and 2-1 arse.

As for Dagger.We all know he has friends in his head but he`s one hell of a footballer.I think we`ll see the best of him next season.

In fairness to Rafa he`s really got the finger out since Parry`s decidied to leave in regards tying up all the contracts and stuff.The man really means business.This bodes wel for our activity in the summer.No more messing around.No more stalling.

Hyde mate, I said the other day, Gerrard is growing into the most complete footballer of his generation and maybe even the greatest ever LFC player. Maturity’s a great thing, eh.

And Steve, I’d love to put that bet on mate but I won’t. Bound to go down in flames if I put the mockers on it, But I reckon you’d even get decent odds in the two finals. As you said, everyone and his dog will also be expecting the mancs and chavs to walk both games.

As for our chances, I’m made up they’ve already written us off. But here’s how I’m looking at it…
if we keep winning, which I think we will, that means Man U need to pick up at least 7 points and can’t win it for at least another 3 games.

Next 3 games…
Man City – anything could happen.

Wigan – probable 3 points for them, but you must keep hope and I’ve seen stranger things happen.

Arsenal – think a lot depends on the game against Chelsea on Sunday. Let’s hope Chelsea are still shell shocked and Arsenal want to retrieve some pride. Win that they can go into 3rd place if they beat the mancs. Again, let’s hope they play for their pride but, more importantly, automatic qualification for the CL next season and the difference in the money.

Which will then leave Hull.
Well, let’s hope they are still in relagation trouble and go into the last game of their season fighting like fuck. Which I would say, they will and chances are you will see the Hull we saw at the beginning of the season. Their players will be fighting to hang onto premiereship wages as much as status and that’s a great motivator.

And remember Man U will have the CL final a few days later. I could only see Berbatov and Ronaldo bottling challenges against Hull and thinking of the final, but none of them will want to risk injury, or red/yellow cards, and so their place in the final – even the Shrek beast will have it in the back of his mind.

So, to my mind, it’s far from over. And imagine piping them to it. Oh please God.

I think this would be the greatest of them all that I’ve seen, and I’ve been lucky enough to see them all since Shankly won it in the 1972/73 season. And that was something to behold.

We’d been trophyless for 7 years. We pipped the favourites and hated enemy of the time, Leeds, to it by beating them 2 – 0 at Anfield. Believe me, back then that was the equivalent of beating the mancs to it, and it ended 7 years of frustration that was every bit as bad as today’s. But imagine nicking it off them now and doing thier heads in so badly they lost to Barca a few days later. Heaven. And if there’s a God of football, and he’s watching, it’s time to act now mate.

I have just been on my sat nav to try and find Chelsea. Apparently its 2 mins from Rome.

Sorry, I left out the most important bit of what I meant to say. And I know this is all a really huge if, but…
If that all happens like I said in me last post, all we really need is for the mancs to have 1 defeat or 2 draws in their next 3 games, and it will all hinge on the last games of the season. And remember they only just tweaked past Hull earlier in the season, scoring in the last few minutes, and again aided by some really dodgy reffereeing.

Anyway, it really doesn’t look so hopeless when you look at it like that. And we’ve all seen these strange things happen before.

FS, I loved your post, #371. Sheer poetry!

It’s how I would have put it, simple and to the point.

Keep believing fellow Reds, keep believing!

Michaelthomasmademecry. Nice one buddy, nice one.

I just watched Ballack running after the ref again. Absolute classic.

That’s a nice one Michael..
Did Terry cry again lastnight?
I didn’t watch either sem-final.
I won’t watch the Final.

What happened to giving The Ref Respect????
Will the F.A punish Chelski, they are after all an English team, representing the England in this
Competion.
Or will they leave it up to UEFA?

I see Alonso isn’t fit for the WET Spam game.
Barton is a disgrace to the game, let’s hope nobody in the prem picks him up.

F,S was that 72/73 game against Leeds the Easter Monday one at Anfield?
and your right, back then beating Leeds was like beating the Scum Today.
they had some players in that side.
I loved the battles between Clark and Tommy Smith.
Remember when he had Clark by the throat?
He would get red carded for that Today.

Redscouse that Clark fella played on the leeds team that set the (at that time) record for longest run of games unbeaten – 29 I think. In 88-89 when we equalled that record and were going for the record breaking 30th game unbeaten, Clarks younger brother was playing for our opponents that day. He scored the winner thus preserving his older brothers teams record and denying us a new one. Our opponents that day? Fucken Everton!

Actually I think it was 87-88 we were going for that record but nonetheless wouldent you know it’d be the Toffees that prevented us doing it! Still, we won the league so minor detail as they say but interesting symmetry with the 2 brothers I thought.

Anyone who saw wengers expression when he shook the tramps hand Would hope he is angry and wants revenge

I remenber reading about when leeds came to anfield in 1969 and beat liverpool 2-0 to take the title from them.

The KOP stayed back and clapped the new champions off the pitch.Later Don Revie described the liverpool fans as the best in the world.

Lots of ifs and but there FS, one point you should put some money on, Man U getting some dodgy decisions from the men in the middle.
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Still it’s never over till the Fat oh sorry largish person sings.
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Ps anyone know anything about an alleged meeting between Hicks/lap dog and the Kafari fellow, yesterday in London.