“Liverpool Football Club exists to win trophies”

1 February, 2012

After Tuesday night’s 3-0 win at Wolves, Liverpool have moved up to fifth in the Premier League and, courtesy of Swansea’s draw with Chelsea, cut the gap to fourth place to four points.

Admittedly, Arsenal have a game in-hand now and are only two points behind The Reds, but Liverpool’s improved form – reminiscent of this time last year – coupled with the return from suspension of Luis Suarez for the next match, has got us thinking about fourth place again.

The importance of fourth place cannot be understated, before the season started owner John W. Henry said it would be a “major disappointment” not to qualify for the Champions League. The American explained “our main goal is to qualify for the Champions League”.

The cynics may suggest Henry was purely thinking in financial terms after a huge outlay of players in the summer, but perhaps more importantly than that is the lure of Champions League football itself when attempting to sign new players.

Take Juan Mata for instance, somebody we’d been long linked with, who ended up going to Chelsea. He was never going to go to a club not in Europe’s top competition. Instead, we got Stewart Downing. Our signings had to be from a certain level of players – when you aren’t in the Champions League, you aren’t eating at Europe’s top table.

On the other hand, Liverpool haven’t won a major trophy since the FA Cup in 2006. Six years is a long time for a club of our stature. When Dirk Kuyt signed for Liverpool not long after that last trophy arrived, no doubt he would have been shocked if you’d have suggested he’d still not won anything almost six years later.

Kenny Dalglish has shown the importance of winning a trophy by fielding strong teams in the League Cup this season – even in the early rounds at Exeter and Brighton. We now find ourselves in the Final, rightly so, and have a great chance of our first piece of silverware under our new owners, returning manager and the new Wembley arch.

Yet still you hear many a Red suggest they’d ‘swap winning the League Cup for finishing fourth’. It’s an interesting debate.

Arguably fourth place provides a better platform for the continued progress of the Club, but like a great man once said “Liverpool Football Club exists to win trophies”.

Of course, in an ideal world we’ll achieve both these goals, but if you had to choose one or the other, which would it be?


Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.

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  1. I do agree that “Liverpool Football Club exists to win trophies”, so if you take the sentence at face value, winning the Carling Cup is the most desirable outcome.

    However, in terms of the probability of long term success, being in the Champions League is crucial (to attract the best players, greater income, merchendising-wise etc). By finishing fourth and loosing the Carling Cup final we are better set up for winning thropies in the future, then by winning the Carling Cup and playing in Europa League

    The great thing is that the two arent mutually exclusive, so lets hope for both

  2. I am fully towards the long term progress of the club, it would be great to pick few trophies on the way too..
    Champions League qualification is essential for our progress, financially & to attract stars..

  3. Lets win everything and qualify for every competion finals. . our very existance is to win. “either we win or they lose”….YNWA

    All the best lads & lets remember in KK we trust

  4. Honestly, I’ve been watching Juan Mata in action this season, and actually I’m not so impressed of his performances. I don’t regret that Liverpool didn’t sign him. Liverpool exists to win trophies, and The Trophies brought top players, not a “foruth place”. Yes, for me, definitely, I wouldn’t swap trophies for a fourth place, especially If We can achieve a fantastic Domestic Cups Double. CL football will come, but only when The Club will be ready to compete at the highest level and taking the European Champions Title. Under new superb owners, our great manager, there will be no much time before We’ll bring back the European Champions Cup in our Trophy cabinet. Surely 4th place is an aim, of Players, Club and Fans, but I would never swap glory days at Wembley, for a “fourth place”. 
    Trophies bring top players, as The One Who are looking for CL wages are only useless money grabbers, like this Juan Mata. I’ve been watching him so many times, and He’s a totally overrated player. For example Downing has more pace & energy than him, and He’s improving game by game. Remember my words: Downing will be a bang in the last quarter of the season. Downing’s form is costantly improving.

  5. Achieving both isn’t out of the question. We’re 4pts off 4th, so the penultimate game of the season vs Chelsea may well be a CL playoff.

  6. The great man in question would have probably baulked at the thought of elite European football being made open to a side who had finished fourth in the league. If second is nowhere…where is fourth?? Trophies breed confidence and instil the winning mentality, no, make that CULTURE that Liverpool Football Club is built upon. The league is the bread-and-butter, we should be aiming far higher than fourth – that’s the mentality of the likes of Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea, and, for all their money, City too – we should expect to be fighting for the title, and appearing in a Wembley and/or European finals. Think those expectations are unrealistic? Read your Liverpool history books, listen to interviews with Shanks, Bob, Joe and Kenny. They set the standards. It’s up to the players of today to step up and deliver.

  7. Both. We want. Why ask which we befare. Want to end up 3rd and win cups. We catch spurs for 3rd.only11 points in and they have a lot of hard games coming up. Stop tinking sure we get one of them hates when tinking like that. We get both. We sould go win al our games we have left. Draw nogood or lose win al of them

  8. I would choose fourth spot,its been missing for a while now and as a club we are feeling the effects of missing out on that spot and players that go with been a Champions League contender.It will be a welcome return to Champions League football even if I had to swop it for a League Cup trophy,no disrespect to the Cup.
    We have fielded stronger teams considering the quality of oppositon,we did have all away games too so the Cup should be OURS come Wembly ….

  9. Both. Not unrealistic to achieve both, why choose then?

    If Carroll picks up his form (like he did against wolves), with either two of Suarez, Bellamy and Kuyt playing upfront to support him, we will be scoring a lot more than we did in the 1st half season… the lack of creativity in the midfield will be compensated by big andy’s presence, giving the midfield more options on making passes

    when goals start to flow, we will be sitting in the top 4 with the carling cup added to our trophy cabinet.

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