Where will the Reds finish? – Predicting Liverpool’s end-of-season points total

13.03.2016


As the 2015/16 Premier League season enters the final sprint, we assess how Liverpool will fare over the last 10 games and where they could finish this campaign.

LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND - Boxing Day, Saturday, December 26, 2015: Liverpool's Christian Benteke celebrates scoring the first goal against Leicester City during the Premier League match at Anfield. (Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

Battling their way back into the race for fourth place, an exciting end to the Premier League campaign awaits Jurgen Klopp‘s side.

Sitting just six points adrift with 10 games left, Liverpool are dreaming of securing a return to European football’s top table for the German’s first full season in charge.

But can the Reds turn their dreams into reality over the remaining league fixtures?

 

Final 10 Predictions

SOUTHAMPTON, ENGLAND - Wednesday, December 2, 2015: Liverpool's Jordon Ibe celebrates scoring the fifth goal against Southampton with team-mates during the Football League Cup Quarter-Final match at St. Mary's Stadium. (Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

Southampton (A)

The Reds have enjoyed recent trips to St Marys, winning on all of the last three visits – including the memorable 6-1 League Cup thrashing.

It would be safe to back the Reds making it four straight wins on current form, but the game is made more complex by the crucial Old Trafford second leg three days prior, which the Saints will look to take advantage of.

Perhaps pessimistic, especially with Liverpool’s improved performance level and belief, but a draw seems the likely outcome.

Points taken: 1

Tottenham (H)

The visit of Mauricio Pochettino’s title chasers is arguably the toughest remaining game for Klopp’s side.

Liverpool have enjoyed the upper hand of this fixture on Merseyside – with Spurs winning only one of their last 17 trips.

But this Spurs team are a different proposition, a consistent and complete unit that it is hard to see the Reds beating without a big, collective effort.

The first match after the international break, a draw looks a realistic conclusion.

Points taken: 1


Stoke (H)

The visit of Mark Hughes’ dangerous Potters will be a tricky test as they seek revenge for League Cup semi-final heartbreak.

A lot could hinge on whether Liverpool are still in European competition – with the quarter-final first leg scheduled prior to Stoke’s visit.

It’s fair to expect three points to materialise however, which must start a very winnable run perfectly.

Points taken: 3

LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND - Wednesday, October 28, 2015: Liverpool's manager Jürgen Klopp celebrates the first goal against AFC Bournemouth during the Football League Cup 4th Round match at Anfield. (Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

Bournemouth (A)

The Cherries are next up on the potentially rewarding list.

Eddie Howe’s side proved a tough nut to crack at Anfield in August’s narrow 1-0 league win, as well as in Klopp’s first win in the League Cup.

But despite an impressive debut Premier League season, another three points should certainly be forthcoming, even if Liverpool do have a quarter-final second leg days earlier.

Points taken: 3

Newcastle (H)

The visit of Newcastle will see Klopp want to avenge the poor 2-0 loss at St James’ Park.

Set to be an emotional return for Rafael Benitez, the relegation battlers will pose a test, and Liverpool know all too well the unpredictability the Magpies have to produce the unexpected.

Kopites will wish Benitez the best of luck at Newcastle, but for 90 minutes at Anfield winning three more points is all that matters – which Klopp’s side should grasp.

Points taken: 3

Swansea (A)

Battling relegation and doing so in brave fashion under Francesco Guidolin, a trip to Wales will be far from straightforward.

But with Champions League aspirations, the Reds can’t afford slip-ups in games that simply must produce three points, and the Liberty Stadium visit has to see another maximum suffice.

Points taken: 3

LONDON, ENGLAND - Wednesday, May 6, 2009: Chelsea's manager Guus Hiddink during the UEFA Champions League Semi-Final 2nd Leg match against Barcelona at Stamford Bridge. (Photo by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

Chelsea (H) – TBC

Liverpool have a horrible recent record against Chelsea, winning only one of the last nine meetings.

The Londoners have become a team of spoilers to the Reds, but in a season of failure for the Stamford Bridge side, Klopp’s men have already picked up three points against the Blues, winning 3-1 in October.

But improvement under Gus Hiddink will see a different contest this time, and as painful as it is to say, a defeat has to come somewhere.

Points taken: 0


Everton (H) – TBC 

The Anfield derby has yet to be confirmed, and the unpredictability of where the Premier League will find room to fit the game in echoes the feeling surrounding it.

Klopp will hope to deny Everton a first Anfield win since 1999 in his first all-Merseyside clash, while Roberto Martinez’s side will hope their goalscoring knowhow inspires a rare win.

Heart says win; head says draw.

Points taken: 1

Watford (H)

It remains to be seen just how much rides on the final Anfield clash by the time the Hornets arrive.

Quique Sanchez Flores’ team have proven tough to beat this season, but avenging the appalling 3-0 loss at Vicarage Road – as well as wanting to sign off positively at home – should serve as motivation for maximum points.

Points taken: 3

West Brom (A)

Liverpool are renowned for struggling against Tony Pulis teams, and a typically tough afternoon awaits at the Hawthorns.

Only Divock Origi’s stoppage-time equaliser earned a point against the Baggies at Anfield, and though a convincing victory would be perfect to end the season, Pulis will have his say.

Points taken: 1

Total points from the final 10 games: 19

 

Points Total

LONDON, ENGLAND - Sunday, March 6, 2016: Liverpool's manager Jürgen Klopp celebrates his side's injury time 2-1 victory over Crystal Palace during the Premier League match at Selhurst Park. (Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

Winning 19 points from the run-in would see Liverpool end with 63 – one more than last season.

Though predictions may err on the cautious side, claiming points at a rate of 1.57 per game this year overall makes it’s unrealistic to expect Liverpool to produce a blitzing winning spree – despite the slight rise to 1.6 per game since Klopp arrived.

Securing 19 points between now and May would see Liverpool improve further to just under tro per game, but it’s still unlikely to be enough for fourth place, despite the Reds qualifying for the Champions League stage with just 60 points in 2004.

Seventy points has proven the magic number to secure fourth spot in recent seasons, but Klopp’s side would be seven points off that, leaving them hoping for others to slip up, and a lower total needed.


 

Premier League Finish

LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND - Sunday, December 13, 2015: Liverpool's manager Jürgen Klopp and players thanking supporters after the Premier League match against West Bromwich Albion at Anfield. (Pic by James Maloney/Propaganda)

The Reds look set to fall short in the pursuit for fourth, having left themselves a task too big to claw back.

Also with 10 games to play, it’s hard to see current occupiers, Man City, not winning at least half of their games when assessing their fixtures, with 19 an equally realistic amount for Manuel Pelligrini’s side to achieve which would likely see them secure fourth with 69 points.

Sixty-three points has earned fifth and sixth spot in four of the last five seasons, and sixth looks a likely finish in 2015/16, with the Reds pipped to fifth by West Ham – who have a kind run-in – but leapfrogging Man United.

Liverpool can only continue to win and hope rivals fail spectacularly, but qualification for the Europa League is more realistic than the Champions League.

A return to Europe’s secondary competition would arguably be better to avoid for next season – winning the Europa League is the way to ensure of that.

Finishing sixth won’t be the conclusion Klopp wants, but it might be what he has to settle for following a rollercoaster, but educational, first six months in charge.

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  1. I don’t believe a single word out of this article. If I have learned anything out of PL this season, its not to expect anything because PL has least regard for following the script moreover in last 10 games. So, lets just relax and enjoy (or cry) one game at a time.

  2. We will end in fourth spot, this season has turned out to be one hell of a rollercoaster ride but we’ll make it, mark my words!

  3. Can’t quite see us in top four, I am just hoping that we can win the Europa league, it will be extremely difficult but not impossible.

    • That would be extremely important.. We are spending some money in the summer, and that will be very important for attracting top players..

    • I am actually really hopeful of that now..our team is starting to look like it’s best at just the right time…as Klopp said, everything in the season thus far has played up to this point. So when I see the other Spanish teams like Villareal, Bilbao, Valencia I’m thinking we actually have a decent shot to go further this season.

      With that being said though, Dortmund still look like favorites to me.

  4. you cannot confidently predict lfc,s next result never mind the last 10 league games
    Someone a lot wiser than me once said we take it one game at a time why not let us just not do that

    • Only Leicester and Spurs look nailed on for top four, Arsenal and City both look capable of blowing it, the Mancs are in disarray, West Ham aren’t out of it, even if we take ourselves out of the equation I haven’t got a scooby doo who the top six will be let alone the top four…

      • Let’s not forget city and arsenal both have quality players. You just can’t take them off. They will bounce back.

        • Yeah, I know, it’s out of our hands to be honest, even if we have a really good run in we still need at least one of City or Arsenal to throw it away..

          • If I have to choose between city and arsenal to blow it ill bet on city. Pellegrini out of contract, silva hasn’t found his form since returning from injury, KDB out.

          • Arsenal have NEVER finished outside the top 4 under Wenger. City’s manager has been given the sack and clearly doesn’t give a C-P :)

          • Maybe Manuel likes the idea of dumping Pep and the Mansours in the Europa League as a leaving present, two fingers in the air as he jets off to his next big job..
            That’s tongue in cheek by the way, I don’t really believe a word of it…

          • its completely in our hands if we get 24 points or more from 30 or more we finish top 4.City and united are not capable of putting a run like that together

        • Yeah, the smart money would still be on Leicester, Spurs, Arsenal and City to finish above us, after that it’s anyone’s guess..

        • I would say Leicester are 55% to win the EPL and 100% for top 2.
          Spurs 35% to win the EPL, 80% for top 2 and 100% top 3 finish.
          Arsenal 0% to win the EPL, 10% top 2. 80% top 3 and 100% top 4 finish
          City 0% of winning or finishing 2nd. 30% top 3, and 70% top 4 finish.
          Liverpool and West Ham both have a 15% chance of finishing in the top 4.

          • No I’m psychic! Of course I guesstimated…just as the article did.
            Top 2 is as good as sewn up and Leicester won’t finish outside the top 2.
            Spurs fighting out for all 4 places, but won’t finish outside the top 4.
            It wouldn’t be unknown for Arsenal to put a late run together and finish above Spurs…they did it a few seasons back when against the odds! So Arsenal realistically only fighting for 2nd to 4th spot.
            City can only realistically finish between 3rd and 5th..6th at a stretch!!
            So…
            Leicester 1st-2nd
            Spurs 1st – 3rd
            Arsenal 2nd-4th
            City 3rd-6th
            West Ham 4th-7th
            Liverpool 4th – 7th

          • Too much guess work involved for me. Liverpool to finish 4th ahead of city and united is my prediction. Very nice run in with no injuries of significance now apart from Ings and Gomez. For the the first time all season.

          • Not really with so few games left and points already accumulated. You can easily cite what positions clubs are fighting for.
            Just as Spurs will realistically finish anywhere between 1st and 3rd, we will realistically finish between 4th and 7th.
            We are fighting it out with City, United and West ham for 4th spot…I hope you are right but fear you are not. Just like the league cup I fear we will fall just short…5th or 6th for me, and losing Europa final to Dortmund :(

          • Liverpool are the only side with momentum. its no big coincidence to see us improve when getting the top striker in the league back into the side.

          • Agreed but also still being in Europa I fear too little too late. Let’s hope Pel’s goes all out for CL win.

          • City are a spent docket going through the motions. Toure only plays one in 5 games. Silva is passed it. Totally reliant on Auguero. I wouldnt worry about Europa in the slightest, Our injuries have cleared up. Allen Origi Lallanna Benteke etc have all shown they are hungry and keen to make a difference when getting a chance which is exactly what you need for momentum. Our injuries this season have being horrific-judging a team missing its key attacking players is futile.

          • Yes but they also have the best squad in the EPL. Not only are they 4 points above us (if we win our game in hand) but also a GD we couldn’t make up, so as good as 5 points above us. Only 9 games left so 27 points left to play for (assuming we win our game in hand v Everton?).
            If you were to say we were to win our game in hand and then from the final 9 win 7 and draw 2. or win 6 and draw 3, then that will put us on 68-70 points.
            If you were to assume the 70 points, then for City to only get 69, they would have to drop 9 points out of final 27, only picking up 18. Do you think we will win 8 and draw 2? I think more likely we win win 6 draw 3 and lose 1 which will only give us 65 points…which means City will have to drop 14 out of final 27 AND United and West Ham would have to also get less points than us.
            IMO 70+ is minimum for top 4, and I fear we will end up with 65-69…too little too late. IF City do collapse, then I think it’s West Ham and not us who will benefit…but I hope to be wrong!!!

          • They drew at norwich yesterday and have being going through the motions for weeks. Lifting themselves for cl and coc final-even then we should have beat them. 4 points is nothing when one team has momentum and the other doesnt. It simply depends on whether Liverpool put together a strong run or not. History says their is a strong run in this squad-confidence up means a winning streak. If that happens no way city hold us off if we stutter city will prob fall across the line like united last year

          • Realistically as we need to not only do better than City but also United and West Ham…we will need a very strong run and win a minimum of 7 of final 10 games.

          • They don’t need to. West Ham only need to collect 3 more points than City until the end of the season. Liverpool need to make up the 5 points and inferior GD on West Ham…and then claw back City.

          • west ham will not get top four spurs will finish 4th man city leicster and arsenal will get the top 3 spots going on fixtures
            I suspect we will gain ground next weekend only to lose ground the weekend after

          • If West Ham beat a flat Chelsea on the 19th, and City fail to beat United…then West Ham go up to 4th!!! Foolish to rule out West Ham and have the best chance of any from taking 4th off City

          • Why not? Chelsea, Arsenal and Leicester are their only tricky games, and they are good enough to beat any of that lot. If City do not finish 4th, it will be far more likely for West Ham and not LFC or United to steal 4th

          • If West Ham beat Chelsea on the 19th they will go 1 point clear of City into 4th. If City then lose to United on 20th, they will remain above City.
            I think you forgot how close West Ham are to the top 4….only 2 points below City in 5th!!

          • they are not capable of taking 24 from 27-most likely they take 17 or 18. Liverpool are the one side with the capabilities of putting a run of wins together.We wont be top 4 next week or the weekafter
            it only matters in May.

          • If (and it’s a big if with us), we can maintain the form we are in 7+ wins
            is doable. The biggest hurdle will be Thursday night football, but our squad looks strong right now.

          • Heres hoping spurs come in for you be better in london supporting the yids hendo going nowere our capt will remain klopp lot of confidence in him you are not klopp o and by the way these are rodgers players who klopp has had the luck of all coming fit at right time he has galvinised this team
            With his betters gengerpressing no doubt so i have confidence in all liverpool players and klopp ynwa

          • IF City and United ends in a draw, and we win against Southampton…then we will be 5 points behind City with a game in hand (2 points + inferior GD = 3 points), and we will be level with United (below on GD) and have a game in hand….and West Ham lose at Chelsea we will be 1 point behind them and a GIH.
            So the next table could read
            4th City 30 – 52
            5th West Ham 30- 49
            6th United 30 – 48
            7th Liverpool 29 – 47
            8th Southampton 31 – 44
            ….then it could be GAME ON!!

          • Specifics are not that important for me-if liverpool take 24 points plus from the remaining games they have a very strong chance to make top 4. Momentum if its maintained swings it in our direction

          • Not really looking at the fixtures Chelsea have nothing to play for. Everton always roll over at Anfield. No way i would fear spurs as well as they are playing we matched them easily enough in Klopps first game. We have improved more since then. Im not saying it will happen but i would be dissapointed if we dont go close. The coach is there and most of the right players are fit at the right time to make it happen. Klopp certainly has not given it up

          • I agree I don’t fear Spurs or Southampton as we do well v teams who take us on…it’s those who park the bus that we struggle against!

          • United parked it the other night-it wasnt that much of a struggle. We did struggle with that early on in the season but Sturridges movement with lallanna and firmino has solved that issue as it was always likely to do. I saw some tw@ t say Sturridge did nothing against united! Do these people not have eyes.

          • Benteke hitting form will help us v the teams that park the bus. we can be guilty of over playing the ball in and around the box…at time you need a big lump who will just run directly into the area and bulldoze his way into the box…e.g Pen v Palace

          • He is a strong option to have as plan b or c with Origi. Thats my point Liverpool have the players fit now to give Klopp options to beat any side-its no wonder the club struggled for 15 months the injury list was absolutely chronic. Now its eased( still missing 2 top players in Ings and Gomez) we show some real form.Klopp is moulding a side now to really kick on next season all the better if we crash into the cl in the process at the last minute.

          • Iv always said you get a fit couthino lalanna firminho playing we will win more hendo can allen there to shore up midfield n lucas between em sturridge origvi bentecke still changeable and fit back four settling sahko loveren skirtel flanno clyne moreno between and migs is better when 4 in front better more confident good thing is for 1st time in 2 seasons except gomes inges a very fit squad to finish with forward in europa and prem lge ynwa well done klopps warriorrs ynwa

          • i would give tottenham a mill to take hendo…the only thing king kenny done i didnt understand

          • It’s worth remembering that Leicester were among the bookies favourites for relegation and Chelsea and City the favourites for the title, I think your percentages are probably about right but I still can’t discount the craziest of all Premier League seasons getting even crazier before the seasons over. The title, top four and the other two relegation spots might not be decided until the last day of the season, I think we’ll maybe get 5th but on the other hand…

          • You shouldn’t use 100% unless it’s mathematically guaranteed..btw Arsenal are just one point above City and West Ham just 2 below City at the moment. Margins are pretty fine that way but my guess is both City and Arsenal will find their form to finish top 4 at the very least.

          • Arsenal have NEVER finished outside the top 4 under Wenger…that ain’t about to change!
            If I want to use 100% when citing my OPINION, I will

          • It’s mathematically possible for C Palace to still win the league. It 100% ain’t gonna happen though!

          • I honestly don’t think it is because Leciester would have to lose all their matches and Tottenham to get 2 from their last 8 and other teams would all have to not make it to 60. So that might in fact be mathematically impossible. Even if it isn’t, there’s maybe 1 in a billion/trillion chance of that happening or some such probability.

            Look I know Arsenal’s track record, I fully expect both of them and City to get through top 4…but West Ham is only 3 points away and they seem to be finishing strongly. That’s not good enough to be a 100%.

          • Where did I say City have 100% chance of top 4 and West Ham had zero?
            Leicester, Spurs and Arsenal WILL finish in the top 4. City, West Ham, United and LFC are all fighting for that spot!

          • So lemme get this straight…City have a 70% chance of making it top 4, but Arsenal who are only a point above City with the same number of games played are 100%? How exactly does that work? Just based on their track record in the past? And realistically speaking, we can’t completely rule United out for that top 4 spot either.

            I have a feeling Liverpool will finish the season very strongly but not strong enough to topple all 3 teams ahead of them at the moment. It will likely end very close between the 3 clubs Man United, WHU and LFC and 5th is not out of the question.

          • It works because it’s based on an opinion and not an arithmetic formula.
            IMO Arsenal WILL not finish out of the top 4, therefore I believe 100%.
            City who i believe will finish in the top 4, are in free fall and by no means nailed on…hence 70%.

          • If Arsenal were tied with City on points at the moment then what would your assessment have been?

      • Yeah same here. It really takes guts to take on a sinking ship. I hope Newcastle survive this year but not on our behalf.. Give us our 3 points you toons n recoup the rest from others :-p

  5. 19 points from the last 10 games is an incredibly pessimistic points total, personally I would hope for an (admittedly optimistic) 24 points from those games. It’s also totally impossible to predict where that would leave us in the table, even if we have a good (or better) run in our final position will be determined by what the other teams in contention do in their games, that’s something we have absolutely no control over. Let’s banish all talk of where we might finish the season and just take care of out own performances and as Klopp tells us, we have to take everything we can, we won’t know if that will be good enough until sometime in late May. Meanwhile there’s a massive game on Thursday and nothing should distract from that…

  6. very unlikely it will map out as you say. some teams will have nothing to play for. Pride? Maybe. but only maybe

  7. Man city will get top 4 we all know that. They have a squad that is capable of it. I’m rather hoping arsenal slip further down. United are confirmed outta top 4 maybe 6 or 7 for them. This is for sure we will get more than 19 points,no one can that predict we can’t win against Everton and Chelsea. That alone will give us 5 points and if we are in the race for top four we might as well nice a win at wba. Confidence is high and there is hope. The only problem is tiredness. We will be playing high intensity games in the El. I just hope Klopp will manage the team well. Ynwa!!!

  8. The irony is we could finish above Chelsea, United and even City yet still miss out on top four, the Premier League could have some big teams and some big name managers in the Europa League next season…

    • Amazing, crazy season. Pep must be wondering what the hell. Imagine a City/Munich final where City can only get back into next year’s Champions’ League by winning it this year. Conflict of interest…Academic as sure King Luis and co will be one of the teams.

  9. I can see both United and Man City imploding further and dropping points however the biggest rivals in this race have to be West Ham – they have looked solid and show no signs of losing form and dropping points.

          • In medical circles this phenomenon which mostly strikes in Merseyside, is known as the “Klopp factor”

          • And better than United, and 3 over West Ham. Why are we assuming that we’ll automatically win our next match for that matter? Fact is there’s 3 teams above us at the moment and we’re going to have to break that points barrier over all of them. And btw gaining a 5 point lead over 9 games is not a small ask. You have to start off with the assumption that City will be dropping 5 more points than we will.

            This article gives a fairly decent estimate of Liverpool getting 19 points from it’s remaining 10 games. We’d basically be expecting City to get 11-12 points from it’s last 9, for West Ham to get 13-14 from it’s last 9, and United to get 15-16 based on goal difference.

          • I didn’t assume anything, I basically indicated that in order for us to have any shot at top 4, we need to win 8 of our remaining 10 games whilst hoping both City and West Ham both win 6 out of their remaining 10 which is very unlikely but not impossible as anything can happen in football

          • Fair enough…but that’s where the problem lies for me…I don’t think we’re going to win 8 out of our remaining 10 matches, it doesn’t seem closely realistic for me. And City and WHU only have 9 matches remaining. So it’s closer to City getting only 5 wins out of remaining 9 that we’d have to hope for with all remaining ones being losses, something I’m not expecting to see.

      • City have to play United, Chelsea and Arsenal, they could win all three but just as easily could drop enough points to give ourselves a glimmer of hope, De Bruyne is quality, it’s the rest of the team that looks out of sorts…

    • I don’t see us gaining 8 points over Man City in the last 10 matches either…too big of an ask even if we do have one game in hand.

  10. We are the best team in the league at the moment by some distance. The doubts understandably remain that we can sustain it, but as Carr said, let’s take it one game at a time and see where we end up.

      • On current form we I can’t see anyone better. Tottenham have been great up until the last week or so, but they are starting to stutter a bit. Leicester have been fantastic all season, but the form Liverpool are in, we should expect to beat everyone.

  11. “a defeat has to come somewhere” ???

    Why the hell on the first place you write such articles. Over the course of last year the quality of the article has gone so low. I used to love your article from all the authors.

  12. We are in good form.. I say 24 out of 30.. One thing I’m sure, we will win against Toten’m and Chelski..

  13. i am 100% sure we will get more than 19 points considering our current form and 6 home matches but still we may not make to top 4
    we have to play our best in both competitions and hope for more luck

  14. When one is desperately chasing and having expectations of points, wasting time writing and reading such an article is the biggest mistake that one could make.

  15. Dont know why the article would state a defeat has to come somewhere ?
    Of course a draw or two are inevitable, but there is not a team above us that we need to feel inferior to.
    I look forward to City continuing in the Champions League and listening to their finished up manager and the usual end of season dross from Arsenal.
    Klopp will go all out to win the next ten games as the impetus increases and absolutely nothing is out of the question.

  16. Obviously it’s all unpredictable and the article is just a speculative talk… But realistically 2 points out of a possible 3 looks maybe ok for now (20 from 30)… Like we all said though, if it’s our time for consistency and with the form we are in at the moment, of course we would like to see a 100% of results… I include EL in that and it would mean a trophy and a def entry to CL… Fingers crossed for NO MORE INJURIES…

  17. Not too fussed about the league now. I’d be more than happier to see players rested if we make further progress in the Europa.

    • We still have very tough teams to get past. I would love us to get it. But we have to beat three more teams to win it.

      • with Lever, Dortm, Sevilla, Shak, still in the competition, we would have to be excelling and smashing it to get past any of them. it is possible, but i do not feel too confident!

    • If we beat Southampton, I could see us otherwise running the table though maybe with one draw against Everton.

  18. Spurs will win, West Ham will push Leicester for second and it will be a battle of talented incompetence between Arsenal and City for fourth. Amazed Billic hasn’t been mentioned as a possible coaching candidate at United and/or Chelsea (and possibly even Arsenal). He is a winner, a great man manager and tactically very astute.

  19. Almost every top team save for Spurs and West Ham has a rebuilding job. One keeps assuming that the likes of Chelsea are loaded and simply underperforming but look closer at their first team and squad (and how poor they’ve been since Xmas last year) and you realise they need help almost everywhere except between the sticks. Similarly with United and even City who have average talent at a number of positions. When there is talk about us being miles behind others I simply won’t accept it – and our league performances against City prove me right. Where we really lack by contrast with others is security/quality in goal. Just watching De Gea the other night makes you think “what if”. City with Hart, Spurs with Loris, Arsenal with Cech, Chelsea with Courtois….

    • Spot on. We had being struggling desperately for goals for 15 months but with Firmino now settled in and firing, Sturridge back, Origi improving and even Benteke coming off the bench looking much sharper we now have a proper threat again. Cant under estimate the effect this has even on the goal keeper. Teams now need to be more cautious against us which takes the pressure of Mignolet. We are one or 2 signings away from a real title challenge again

      • A very interesting idea and could happen if Pep brings with him a new keeper. Mind you, Hart didn’t have a great year

  20. Saw somewhere about super computer predicting the top 4 this season. .. it’s funny how a machine going to predict about the inventor.. anyway.. it’s just for fun I guess…
    Coming back to this article. … I won’t blame the author. . A boring week..what else u expect to be written.
    Who predicted that city gonna draw with Norwich. .. none I guess. Therefore..anything is possible at current form… we are even there to take up the 3rd spot.. I’m not dreaming…but anything is possible. Let’s enjoy the season without much expectations… all will be for good… klopp factor will surely give us someting one day.

  21. It appears as if Costa wants to leave Chelsea in the summer. When a player bites, we’re well aware of the motive. Abromavic appears weary too. He’s just not as committed as he once was.
    I never thought I’d take so much satisfaction from the demise of Man Utd and Chelsea. I simply can’t find enough information on the subject. I love rewatching the face of Giggs on that Utd bench, the pain in the faces of their supporters. They’re already talking about the “Utd way” bullsh** (same trap we fell into). They’ve been so confined and comfortable in the decision making process at board level during the Ferguson years that they are paralysed now. Everyone at that club is totally baffled. Has anyone more links on their demise?

    Sorry, did I just post something totally non related to the article…hahaha

    • Man, what were Chelsea and Jose thinking selling off Lukaku!? Chelsea has been bit of a strange club in recent times…I mean they did well to win the title, but selling of Luiz, Lukaku, Mata for an overall 115mil – seems like either Abramovich isn’t really into investing more money into the club or they’ve made a conscious decision to stay within FFP something I don’t really get since City seem to be breaking those rules ever since it was enforced.

      • To be fair, when they sold those players FFP was stricter! It does appear RA is trying to run the club in a more sustainable manner though

        • And yet City were and have always been breaking the rules. There’s no way PSG have been following it either…they just make up the numbers behind the scenes with the “commercial” deals with one of their subsidiaries.

          • They both did, both sides were limited on the number of players they could register for the CL and had to pay fines (which were nothing to their sugar daddies)! FFP have changed the rules now

  22. What position do we need to finals in to AVOID Europa league???

    If it’s 7th I don’t care, let’s do a leciester and concentrate on one thing next season! ;)

  23. Agree with the comments re. the unpredictability of these games but I’m bored so here goes:

    Southampton – WIN 3 points. They allow teams to play against them and therefore I think we’re better than them
    Tottenham – WIN 3 points. Again, Spurs are a team who allow you to play. At home and with confidence from the games before think we’ll do them. Plus we’ll raise our game for them.
    Stoke – LOSS 0 points. One of those ‘after the lord mayor’s show’ type performances. Stoke to come to Anfield, make it really tight and nick it with a set piece.
    Bournemouth – WIN 3 points. Entertaining game, win by the odd goal but it won’t be easy (3-2)
    Newcastle – DRAW 1 point. Benitez effect to be fully in flow and Newcastle will be first and foremost tough to beat. Expect 2 DM and a flat back 4.
    Swansea – DRAW 1 point. Another side that will let us play but backing on the inconsistency to rear it’s ugly head and us to drop points we shouldn’t be. Swansea will still be scrapping for survival at this point.
    Chelsea – WIN 3 points. Chelsea’s season effectively over. Hazard, Costa and Fabregas not really trying and looking to engineer a move away. Routine win.
    Everton – DRAW 1 point. Lukaku to terrorise our defence but the vastly overrated Stones to get ripped a new one by Sturridge/Origi. A high scoring draw.
    Watford – LOSS 0 points. They’ll be compact and difficult to play against and will nick one from a set piece by bullying us physically.
    West Brom – WIN 3 points. Baggies will be safe and have nothing to play for. With it being at home for them I see them being a little more attacking than usual and think we’ll nick it with counter attacks.

    That gives us 18 points between now and the end of the season and would leave us on 62 points (the same as last season). Should be good enough to nick a Europa League spot again.

  24. While the individual predictions may be a tough one to navigate I think I do agree that 19 points is about a good guess as to what we will get from the remaining matches – perhaps even a tad bit optimistic given the nature of PL football this season. We are still a bit of a yo-yo team at the moment despite the improved performances and form. We showed great character and resilience for example against Palace, but that game could very well have ended up being a draw/loss. Anfield seems to be bit of a happier place at the moment though which is nice to see.

    I see a lot of people talking about top 4 but I feel that might be a tad bit too far with 3 clubs above us at the moment and with us being 7 points and an inferior goal difference(which makes it 8 realistically) away from it, albeit with a game in hand.

  25. i just think that if Liverpool and Dortmund could face each other in europa it would be one of the craziest things ever. Klopp playing against Dortmund. Can we even beat them? That would be a huge litmus test

    • They ought to be considered favorites on account of them being a more developed team with better overall squad on paper as well. That Tottenham 3-0 mauling was something special to watch – quite easily playing like a Champions League side.

        • Hmm not Dortmund..I mean I’ve seen them play and they’re quite easily a Champions League side and 2nd best in Germany. They beat Porto easily, it seems like they’ll get past Tottenham easily as well – that’s 2 massive opponents.

  26. THIS IS MY PREDICTION @THIS IS ANFIELD LISTEN WELL
    1ST. LEICESTER CITY 75 POINTS
    2ND .LIVERPOOL 74 POINTS
    3RD. ARSENAL 71 POINTS
    4TH EVERTON / MANCITY AND SPURS 71 AND 70 POINTS RESPECTIVELY
    5TH AND 6TH MANCITY AND MANUTD 70 AND 69 POINTS RESPECTIVELY

  27. Have more faith in the team. Although we have been inconstant this season but from our remaining 10 games, 6 are at home (18 points), and 4 away (12 points). I expect out of the 30 points we will need anywhere between 20-25 points and with other results going our way we just might nick it, but a not holding my breath. They way this season has gone the winner will barely crack 80 points and I suspect that 4th spot will take somewhere between 65-69 points. We are already two games in hand and don’t play in the league till the 20th, then off till the 2nd. These rearranged games against the bluenoses and Chelski will loom large.

  28. With our current form of beating the big guns and struggling against the others it really is impossible to predict our remaining fixtures!

    Bournemouth are flying at present, why should a victory be so forthcoming?!

  29. The most strong prediction I have is Leicester will win the league and before the last day. We will beat Spurs at Anfield and end their hopes. Leicester is 8 points ahead of 3rd. As for 4th, one of Arsenal or City will get pipped by us or WH. City seems to have no drive left in them. I’d bet on them. I don’t know how Pellegrini motivates them. Wenger seems to find a way to wind up his team for 4th.

  30. This is a fairly level-headed analysis. It would be quite optimistic to expect more, but Liverpool are capable of it. I think it would be testament to Klopp’s ability as a manager if he can actually get the team playing consistently at their best for the remainder of the season, but if he doesn’t it doesn’t mean he’s substantially failed in some way. There are three years of inconsistencies to weed-out and it’s not going to just happen this quickly. Lot’s of fence sitting and unknowns here, I just don’t think we can know for sure. We’re also probably all a bit jaded from hoping Liverpool are on the verge of something special, only to have our hopes decimated by a rubbish performance against an average team.

    But I will say this: Liverpool played close to their best against United. Maybe they were suitably motivated to do so, but it’s a good sign. There are not too many reasons for their form from here on in to just fold and go back down again. And if they play like they did against United for every single game then they’ll do better than the analysis above suggests. They may even push for that fourth spot, but that one is out of their hands because other teams have to do quite badly in order to let them in.

  31. With the inconsistency Liverpool has shown all season (one step forward, two steps back), there’s no way of guessing how we will finish and where we will end up. This run in looks quite difficult. The safest bet is we will finish outside the top 4 – that horse has bolted.

  32. The path to CL is through Europa. Maximum of 7 games. Do not to need win more than 4. All within our control. That should be the priority of resting players and keeping our best line-up ready for United Thursday.

  33. think 5th is the most likely place we will finish this season. europa league is our best chance to qualify for cl so we should go all out in europa games

  34. The only ting I will say is that the teams above us have a much more difficult run in. Both Arsenal and City are dropping points everyone would bet their houses on them not dropping. West Ham and United have some very tough games to navigate. I think we will see some major surprises and upsets. The likes of Sunderland and now Newcastle with Rafa will take points of teams. It will be a very interesting run in and the team that hold’s it’s nerve the best, will finish in the top 4. Definitely wont bet my house on a top 4 finish but there is still an outside chance as there is for West Ham and everyone in the top 8 at the moment. The only positive factor is we are coming into a bit of form and consistency and we have more or less a fit squad.

    • Too few matches remaining and too many points to catch up on. If we were where West Ham are currently in points I’d be much more optimistic.

      • Have you seen their fixture list? Chelsea up next, then it’s not unlikely they won’t win a single point in the entirety of April. First the Palace derby, arsenal, leicester, united and then a trip to WBA.

        And there’s a replay to the scum somewhere in that month as well, if they progress (which I hope they do) even another game. So, while I fancy the for the FA Cup, the league is not their friend atm.

        • I agree, that looks like a pretty difficult fixture list but West Ham are looking really good right now..I expect them to give a good fight to the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal and United at the very least. Possibly even winning one or two of those matches. Palace I expect them to win that as well.

          Anyway, I’m not ruling out a 5th place ending just yet, but it seems like 4th place is a touch too far. Should not have drawn that Sunderland game and should not have lost to the Scum in Anfield. That would be +3 points right there.

          • Yeah, they’re a good side West Ham, good manager too and a fair play of good management. I kinda dislike them because they beat us so many times this season, but overall I think they’re one of the best footballing sides. Allthough something about Payet irks me. I don’t know what it is, he does everything I like in a player, he just irks me.

            Can’t stand Watford with that b3ll3nd Deeny, that right back Nyom and Prodl leading the charge of “players Onyx doesn’t like”. Dirty team that, nasty, filthy, don’t like them, don’t like their style of play, don’t like their approach to the games etc. Palace is Palace, never liked them, never will, can’t stand Adebayor. And well, can’t have the Bitters win that trophy can we?

            For the league, I want us to play football that will give us a chance to win every game. Like what we did at Palace for the last 30 and what we showed against the manchester teams. Time and again I want us to go out there, play good football, high intensity pressing and then we’ll see how close we’ll get to the 30 points.

          • Oh you with your hatreds :)

            Only teams I generally hate on are Scum and Chelsea FC. Rest of the teams I can’t really hate on that much – sometimes Pulis teams can get a bit much ofcourse but even there it’s not so one-sided. Watford are a decent team man, full power to them for knocking Arsenal out…I loved that goal scored by Guideodoura…it’s interesting you call them the ugly team..Deeney got lucky not to get a leg-breaker type of injury…terrible tackle from Gabriel, surprised the ref didn’t red card him then and there.

            I don’t have issues with the Sunderlands and Watfords man..they add diversity to this league, and simply labelling them hoof ball teams is a bit simplistic for me.

          • That’s exactly the thing! Everyone mentions the two footed challenge from Gabriel. Obviously a straight red. But Deeny makes a similar legbreaker challenge. His studs are raised and the leg stretched. That was equally filthy.

            That goal was a spectacular strike indeed! But it’s not like he’s doing them 20 times a season so a bit lucky. Arsenal owned them all over the place but couldn’t connect to one of their many chances.

          • No way dude…you can’t fault Deeney there..you’re making it sound like it’s some 50-50 clashing of legs…it wasn’t…Deeney already had the ball and Gabriel was trying to take it from him…if they were both going at it studs up then their point of contact would be studs to studs. This was Gabriel’s studs to Deeney’s knee. I’m reminded of that Shelvey vs Carrick I think it was against United for which Shelvey got the red card and he told off Fergie. That was a 50-50. Or are you talking about a different instance out here?

            And I loved that Watford won it despite possession from Arsenal…they’re a weak team with a lack of plan B, or atleast one that they didn’t enforce soon enough. Fully deserve to lose and possession is not name of the game here.

          • I was reminded of that similar tackle (was not on Carrick but Johnny Evans) . Both should’ve walked there as they should’ve done yesterday. Deeny had the ball but controlled it poorly and let it slip away from him too far. I remember van Persie getting sent off for a similar tackle Deeny did. Only in that instance the opponent didn’t throw in a tackle like Gabriel did.

            I like Arsenal with their decent approach in recent years. No crazy spending, getting in a player or two at a time, winning a trophy every once in a while.

      • if we win are game in hand we are 2 points behind West ham and 4 behind City and 5 behind Arsenal and tie with United. Nothing in it. look at their fixture list anyone can drop 9 points very easily with this run in. Yes as can we but it will go down to the wire

        • Ok. So first we have to win our next match or rather win the extra game we play in midweek in the near future while also catching up on City. Also, I’m pretty sure we’re not going to overtake them on goal difference so in reality we’re closer to 5 points behind City after that supposed win. Arsenal are already out of FA Cup and will soon be out of Champions League as well, leaving them with the Premier League. I pretty much fully expect both Arsenal and City to up their game to finish the season strong enough to secure those top 4 positions. Put another way, if City manage to get even 18 points from their last 9 games, then we’d have to get 25-26 points from our last 10.

          • It’s difficult for City to turn it around when the manager is leaving and many players knowing they’re not Guardiola type of players but on long term deals.

            City is not a place where you want to be, only Aguero and Silva seemed to be really up for it.

          • De Bruyne is coming back, Yaya Toure was missing for Norwich game as well…obviously Arsenal are more well versed with this kind of pressure but I do expect City to atleast make it thru to a decent tally of points based on who they have in their team.

            I get that whole narrative you’re talking about but even then they’d have to fail pretty spectacularly to fall out of that 4th position.

            Let me just put it this way..if we’re able to get 24 points from our remaining 10 matches, then just maybe we have a chance at clinching that 4th spot..and even then the odds seem against us since we’d have to expect City to end with 16 out of their last 9.

          • For the record this is the fixture list
            West Ham play
            Chelsea (a)
            Palace (h)
            Arsenal (h)
            Leicster (a)

            City Play
            ManU (H)
            B’mouth (a)
            WBA (h)
            Chelsea(a)

            Arsenal Play
            Everton (a)
            Watford (h)
            Westham (a)
            Palace (h)

            Liverpool play
            S’hampton (a)
            Spurs (h)
            Stoke (h)
            B’mouth (a)

            Just these next 4 fixtures can change everything. City still play Arsenal and West ham Stoke, plus all the points dropped against relegation team fighting for survival. It will go down to the wire and it will be very unpredictable.

          • City playing United and Brom home…they’re generally a pretty strong team at the Etihad. I can see them lose one match there, maybe against Chelsea, and grab 2 wins and a draw. The other 3 games, against West Ham away seems like a tough fixture for them, but they’ll be playing Arsenal and Stoke at home. I expect them to win against Stoke and maybe change their approach against Arsenal and West Ham and play for a draw at the fear of losing that 4th place. Ofcourse, anything is possible but I do expect them to grab 12 points from those 7 matches.

            Yes, City do look weak by their own standards this season, but not as weak as to drop in mid-table positions just yet. Could go down to the wire though you’re right. This discussion only becomes realistic for us if we end up winning that extra game in hand while keeping pace with them and West Ham on the points tally for the moment.

          • Personally I think 5th is more realistic with the run of games West ham has and I am hoping City go on a good CL run and focus on that dropping Prem points and Arsenal implode a bit giving us that chance to sneak 4th as a back up to the Europa cup.

  35. fairly pointless article. even if ben twelves did get this right. we couldn’t predict city united west ham and arsenals run in. Not to mention how goal difference could decide it all.

  36. I wonder how much money you would win if you got the predictions right.

    We won’t lose only one game till the end of the season. Sorry but thats being realistic

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